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re: Could Parkview beat Greenwood, Fayetteville or Bentonville?

Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by vodka
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:43 pm to
I know he's really good, but I absolutely hate Marks game. Dribbles too much the ball doesn't move when he's in.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 7:46 pm
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:48 pm to
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I know he's really good, but I absolutely hate Marks game. Dribbles too much the ball doesn't move when he's in.



Tito's must be good

Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:46 pm to
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Ask any small town school in south Arkansas who finally has a good team of home grown talent that has to play PA, a school with a stacked recruited roster in all sports, for a championship. It should never happen. Make the academies play one another or larger schools with comparable talent. I’ve been pissed about this for years.


Public schools recruit as well. Parkview has their pick of kids in the entire LRSD do they not? Aren’t they about as “private” as a “public” school can be?

Junction City ran off I don’t know how many titles some years back and they brought kids in from Louisiana. What’s the difference in them?

Rison back in the 90’s pulled kids from Pine Bluff. They were an animal of a program.

Why do you think Greenwood has been dominant for so long and Southside and Northside haven’t been worth much since the 90’s? People have moved their kids to a program that is a proven winner.

I’m looking at some scores and I don’t see many private schools left playing right now in lower classifications. I also don’t see any that won state titles.

I just find it hard to be upset at families that put their kids in private schools in the large metro populated areas. Its likely a better education and a safer environment. Much like the Fort Smith area families do with the Greenwood district.

I grew up in Arkansas public school. Felt like you did when I was younger. Now with my daughter, you couldn’t pay me to put her in a public school in the Tulsa Metro area. Not a chance. We do not have to recruit. Many of our programs are state title contending programs. Kids want to play at our school, there is absolutely no need to recruit. At our school, we have to worry about Union, Jenks, Bixby, and Owasso recruiting our football players or our girls basketball players. It’s a two way street.

Our kids also sign a “No Quit” clause. If a student athlete quits a sport during season, they risk getting kicked out of school. We also have summer pride with nearly every male and female taking part in that over each summer. That’s starts in 4th grade.

I can’t speak for Arkansas private schools, but at ours we have long tenured coaches in the major sports who are involved in all the youth school programs. Football runs the same offense that is run based starting in first grade. Basketball coaches have their hands in every elementary grades team. The kids at our school have been here playing together most of their lives, just as at public schools.

You’re more than entitled to your opinion, but just wanted to point out that public’s do just as much as what you claim as privates likely do.

You and I both know that Bolding likely isn’t a squeakily clean program runner at Parkview.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Public schools recruit as well.


Damned right they do. Anyone here think Malik Monk and his family moved to Bentonville because he wasn’t recruited?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:43 pm to
Lepanto or Bentonville

Tough choice
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 2:50 pm to
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You’re more than entitled to your opinion, but just wanted to point out that public’s do just as much as what you claim as privates likely do.



I’m talking about the schools in se ark in the small towns. No one is coming to these towns to play sports. When they finally get a good group of local kids that can compete with other small towns they still aren’t going to have enough talent to compete with PA or such academies. Just pencil them in as champs every year.

But I no longer have kids playing so it may be different now but it sure was aggravating to watch.
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:32 pm to
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Lepanto or Bentonville Tough choice


Need an LSUfreek .gif of him putting a BHS hat on.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 7:52 pm to
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No one is coming to these towns to play sports.

I grew up in the southeastern portion of the state and go back for holidays and hunting seasons. No one is staying in those towns any longer. Every trip I take, it seems like population amounts on signs get smaller and smaller. Kids that leave for education after high school, likely don’t move back. That’s the actual problem. There’s nothing there for kids who have an opportunity to get out.

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When they finally get a good group of local kids that can compete with other small towns they still aren’t going to have enough talent to compete with PA or such academies. J


Small town schools aren’t in the same class as Pulaski Academy. The smallest private that’s decent at football is Harding Academy, and aren’t they 4A?

Small town football, which to me is 3A and 2A, were completely dominated by Junction City, Prescott, Booneville, and Charleston for many of the 2000’s. Those schools combined have won 17 state titles between them in that timeframe (2000-2022).
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
1797 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 12:31 pm to
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I grew up in the southeastern portion of the state and go back for holidays and hunting seasons. No one is staying in those towns any longer.


If sucks because I wish there were more jobs, better opportunities to stay, etc. Being from NWA and watching it grow not only in people but overall wealth, it’s hard to see other parts of the state not have lightning in a bottle with Walmart, Tyson, etc. and to your point it seems like everyone is leaving but not all are staying in state - so we potentially lose more D1 talent on a per capita basis bc of that. The amount of transplants up here and kids that don’t want to play D1 for Arkansas is infuriating(the few that actually have the talent for SEC). I know there’s a lot more that goes into it, but our big schools that are winning state titles don’t necessarily have that many kids that could ever play SEC ball. Maybe I’m totally off. Might be a hot take.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21299 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 1:01 pm to
Consolidation has hurt a lot of Arkansas delta schools.

Forrest City, Pine Bluff, Helena and Barton are a few examples that have suffered from population loss and school consolidation of the lawsuit that came from Lake Village.

It killed plenty of small delta towns that had good football teams that produced good talent.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 8:00 am
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Consolidation


That’s the only thing that keeps the southern Georgia schools relevant in sports. Nearly every county has a county school to go along with main city school.
Posted by Omahawgs15
Member since Mar 2023
2562 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 8:14 am to
Yes. Parkview would be best team in the state
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:09 pm to
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Forrest City, Pine Bluff, Helena and Barton are a few examples that have suffered from population loss and school consolidation of the lawsuit that came from Lake Village.

It killed plenty of small delta towns that had good football teams that produced good talent.

It sucks because there were some great teams at Barton. That 87 or 88 team was the best in the state. Imagine a 2A team beating a 7A team. If I remember correctly they went undefeated and were unscored on.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21299 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 1:03 pm to
Yes Barton had 63 consecutive victories from 1986 until 1990. That led the nation at the time.

Those Barton teams would beat Rogers Heritage, Springdale and Springdale Harbor.
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