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re: Arkansas lost an historic landmark last night

Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:51 pm to
Insurance fraud wIns again.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:14 pm to
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Even worse to me is that nobody got to go in and retrieve all of the old wood work and fixtures that are of the type that just aren't made anymore. Instead its just lost to neglect and then fire.

Its a shame.



No kidding. They should've looked into bidding out the opportunity to come in and strip out things like moldings, woodwork, floorboards, tile and tubs for repurposing in houses.

You know there would've been a ton of rich people show up looking for anything and everything, just so they could walk people through their houses/lake houses and say things like "the tile you're standing on is from the bathhouse in the old Majestic hotel" or "this is an old claw foot tub from the Majestic" or "this fireplace and mantle used to be in the old Majestic Veranda room." One percenters love that sort of stuff, and it would've been a cool backstory.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:02 pm to
The moldings & wood alone would've brought in a small fortune. People I deal with are extremely interested in it. They're always wanting me to find old moldings, fixtures, etc. for remodeling their homes. If I had known about this, I most definitely would have inquired.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:14 pm to
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The moldings & wood alone would've brought in a small fortune. People I deal with are extremely interested in it. They're always wanting me to find old moldings, fixtures, etc. for remodeling their homes. If I had known about this, I most definitely would have inquired.



Yep. You just know there would've been rich people from around the state send designers, decorators and the like to scavenge for things like that that could've been repurposed in a house, and they would've ponied up handsomely for it too.

Heck, there are more than a few rich people in the Hot Springs area who would've taken part.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:46 pm to
Yes, there are quite a few wealthy people down here in SELA who send me looking for this exact type of thing. Many of the old homes & buildings around New Orleans & surrounding areas have been "scavenged" to death, so this hotel would've been a gold mine for many.

I still am puzzled as to why it was allowed to deteriorate into such a state, though. Evidently, money was not an issue for the owner(s); otherwise, I'm confident much of that valuable material would have been salvaged. Of course, the ideal situation would have been to refurbish the hotel to its prior glory for Hot Springs, as well as the state. Just a waste all around.
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:22 am to
I also found a Facebook page some created to save the hotel and it has some good photos and info on it. LINK
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 7:32 am to
So, here is something to consider.

I was talking to a friend last night who lives in Hot Springs. So, that entire block damn near is The Majestic. The only thing lose was the "u" shaped building. He said those were mostly just rooms and the building beside it was the one with most of the fine woodwork, lounge, etc.

Theory: Owners knew fire fighters would just let it burn. If it burned, this meant it would be unsafe to leave standing as it sits close to the roadway.

Insurance money would be enough to start a renovation on main lobby building and rooms there.

Thoughts?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 7:59 am to
Let ASMSA have the lot when they've finished demolishing the Majestic.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:30 am to
see post on top of page
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:56 am to
I love Hot Springs, shady as frick.
Posted by Hog Springs
I'm on a boat
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:57 am to
I'm from there as well. It's kinda funny as an article came out not to long ago saying they didn't have the funds to renovate it, then boom, it goes up in flames.
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
Member since Jan 2013
10288 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:26 am to
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Litigator

Great Facebook page. You're right, tons of info & videos/pics.

This one is heartbreaking. ...



... and so are the videos of walk throughs of the hotel in its deteriorated state filmed before the fire. I see things in each shot that I would've loved to have had. The videos are extremely haunting and sad.

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Hawgeye

quote:

I was talking to a friend last night who lives in Hot Springs. So, that entire block damn near is The Majestic. The only thing lose was the "u" shaped building. He said those were mostly just rooms and the building beside it was the one with most of the fine woodwork, lounge, etc.

Theory: Owners knew fire fighters would just let it burn. If it burned, this meant it would be unsafe to leave standing as it sits close to the roadway.

Insurance money would be enough to start a renovation on main lobby building and rooms there.


I see what you mean about the "U" shaped building being the one that burned, not the other building containing the lobby, etc. where much of the valuable interior items are located.

Arson & insurance fraud, as CV said, is absolutely something to consider, and I'm sure the authorities will look into it. That's probably standard in cases like this when many millions are involved.
After seeing the videos of the largest portion of the hotel where the rooms were located, it's obvious that it would have cost an enormous amount to refurbish it. It's not illogical to suspect insurance fraud.

It just kills me to see very old historic, once incredibly beautiful buildings left to rot as The Majestic was, and particularly in this instance. It is a huge responsibility and undertaking to maintain something this massive, but honestly, it never should have been neglected to this degree.

Regardless of how the fire started or why, a lot of tangible history was lost when it burned.

Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:32 am to
That's why I asked if anyone knew what happened. I was hearing tin foil hat, yet probably true stuff. I just didn't want to post about it.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:41 am to
Central Park Fusion across the street from there is awesome. That pic from above made me think of it.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:44 am to
The only pace I'd supprted a casino in Arkansas would have been there at the Majestic in Hot Springs because of it's history and the need for year round draws for Hot Springs.
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