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Would Love To See Ruggs Return Punts

Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:34 am
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:34 am
Diggs is struggling with punt return. He's prone to let punts bounce and roll, and if he does catch one I can't recall him ever doing anything with it.

When you think back on what a weapon Eddie Jackson, Cyrus, and Javy were every week on punt returns it would be nice to get some production again from our PR.

With the way things are looking on defense I'm thinking Bama is going to need every weapon they can get this season, and right now Bama is getting zero production on punt returns.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:35 am to
I agree. Diggs is sure handed but he's not a threat to house one. No wiggle and it takes him a while to get up to speed.

That said, if Ruggs or Marks bobbles it in practice then I'd rather just have Diggs out there fair catching them all over that.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 12:47 am to
Either Ruggs or Jeudy or Foster.

Diggs is not the answer, and from what I recall, Marks didn't look too hot either.

Being a good PR is a special ability that has nothing to do with pure speed, agility, etc.
it's more about having great vision, timing, anticipation, etc.

That's why Eddie Jackson was so good

Saban putting Eddie Jackson at returner was perfect. He usually gets the right guy there, it just takes a while to figure it out. At this point, Diggs is a cop-out
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 12:49 am
Posted by Goombaw
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:38 am to
I wonder if they've ever given Tony Brown a shot?
Posted by KareemAbdul
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:29 am to
Robert Foster would have my vote. Dude is a rocket
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 9:20 am to
Diggs is obviously there because he is the safest option. I think we have guys more capable of breaking big returns, but if they don't secure the ball every time, it really doesn't matter. That's an easy spot to turn the ball over if a guy is just a little shaky.
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:15 am to
Javier Arenas was a wet dream of a punt returner. Dude was good for about 20 yards every time. I miss that. Not to mention his corner blitzing..miss Javy.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:33 am to
Javy was the best punt returner the program has ever had. He was an artist back there. He had that little delay that would always cause the first defender to miss.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 10:45 am to
Saw Javy next to Pruitt every time they cut to him last night.

Was just thinking last night, damn we might have a DB come close to leading the team in sacks as much as they bring the heat with Fitz and Brown.

Javy was only 1.5 behind Dareus in 2009 with 5 sacks as a DB...
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 1:58 pm to
Robert Foster. He's got dynamic speed and good vision, and having him as returner would guarantee he gets touches every game.
Posted by Commander Data
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:55 pm to
Yes sir. We have saw Saban be conservative there in the past until he trusts a guy not to muff it.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Javy was the best punt returner the program has ever had.

I disagree. Javy was great, but David Palmer was better.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

I disagree. Javy was great, but David Palmer was better.


Disagree. And the numbers do, too

Palmer: 4
Arenas: 7

And while we're on the topic, I think Eddie Jackson had better vision than both of them. His numbers would've been up there if he'd been the return man for 3 years.

Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 5:59 pm to
Palmer was only in Ttown for 3 years.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:00 pm to
Eddie Jackson, Prothro, Arenas, Palmer - all great returners. Maze wasn't too shabby either.

It'd be nice to have a real threat fielding punts again
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:23 pm to
7/4 > 4/3
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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49680 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:38 pm to
Its just my opinion, and both were very good, but Palmer was better.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:54 pm to
1. 14.1 Javier Arenas (125 returns, 1,752 yards)
2. 13.4 Harry Gilmer (83 returns, 1,119 yards)
3. 12.7 Marquis Maze (56 returns, 711 yards)
4. 12.5 Cyrus Jones (54 returns, 673 yards)
5. 10.9 Christion Jones (66 returns, 719 yards)
6. 10.6 Tony Nathan (46 returns, 489 yards)
7. 10.4 David Palmer (83 returns, 866 yards)

That's the Alabama career punt return average list. Interestingly, for all the crap Bobby Williams took, four of the top five were coached by him. Eddie Jackson didn't have enough career returns to make the list but was averaging a staggering 23 yards per return last season before he was hurt.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:55 pm to
They also play a ton of first string on special teams now. That makes a difference
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:58 pm to
True. I'm partial to Javy because I just loved his demeanor and the way he played the game all around. I was a bit young when Palmer was playing - not yet a teenager when he first got to campus - and don't have a great recollection of him like I do Arenas.
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