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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:34 pm to
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Has Boz been around to give us the scoop on what's been going on at practice that the reporters don't see

Some folks around here hurt Boz's feelings. I think he stopped posting here.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:44 am to
I ran into a certain guy who was a former NFL head coach, NFL defensive coordinator and now position coach with an NFL team (has a condo close to me and I've known him for several years). He said he was at pro day in Tuscaloosa and had some interesting comments. First, he said that Da'ron Payne was the best football player out there. He told me that Tim Williams was the best draftable player we had, but his club wouldn't look at him because of his drug history. He was very high on Reuben Foster, but said that although he has a good football IQ, he seemed to be a "loose cannon"...also said he'd be drafted highly because he is so good...almost raved about him, saying that he reminded him of a young Ray Lewis. He also said Anderson was impressive and the only negative he mentioned was his short arms. The only offensive player he mentioned was Hurts and he wasn't impressed with his passing ability (who the hell is!!). Finally, I asked about Daboll and he said he'll be fine. "He'll do what Nick wants him to do" were his exact words, and he said we'll see something like what New England runs next year(as expected). Lastly, he wasn't a fan of Lane Kiffin and he said that Daboll would put a solid offensive scheme on the field...not all that "Mickey Mouse shite" that Kiffin was running.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:35 am to
All the player evaluation stuff is great content, but I'm going to take the last bit with a grain of salt.

NFL guys always take this holier than though attitude towards the college game. If we run what New England runs, we better hope Mac Jones is legit because I think Hurts and Tua would struggle mightily in that system.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:42 am to
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saying that he reminded him of a young Ray Lewis.


Well to be fair Reuben hasn't killed anyone. Yet.
Posted by leftshark49
SEC Country
Member since Feb 2015
397 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:52 am to
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we better hope Mac Jones is legit because I think Hurts and Tua would struggle mightily in that system.


Are you saying this bc JH2 doesn't throw the ball like Tom Brady?? I believe the jury is still out on how good (or bad) of a passer JH2 can be for us... assuming you are referring to throwing ability, why do you think Tua would struggle? I thought by all accounts he delivers seeds!

For the record, I do not think Tua will win the QB job anytime soon, I'm just curious if I don't know something about our backup.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:56 am to
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quote:
saying that he reminded him of a young Ray Lewis.


Well to be fair Reuben hasn't killed anyone. Yet.


That we know of.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:08 am to
New England's offense involves a ton of checks at the line of scrimmage, a lot of it's under center, and a ton of timing routes. It's going to be a hard transition for two short, dual threat QBs regardless of how well they throw the ball.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

It's going to be a hard transition for two short,


Hurts and Mac are the same height. Tua is one inch shorter.

quote:

dual threat QBs regardless of how well they throw the ball.



Meh, 'dual threat' doesn't automatically mean that they are incapable of making checks, going under center, and hitting timing routes.
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2617 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:07 pm to
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Well to be fair Reuben hasn't killed anyone. Yet.


LF7 would say hi, if he could.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12221 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:21 pm to
He was scared of Foster the rest of his career.
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8420 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:39 pm to
Coach, so he didn't say anything about our DL about to be drafted?
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 4:48 pm to
Hurts isn't 6'2". I don't know if Mac is listed too tall also, but Hurts doesn't look 6'2" when I walk past him
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12221 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 5:06 pm to
Any news on Nigel Knott, any chance at significant playing time this year?
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:14 pm to
Video of the QBs today.
Hurts and Tua seems to be bonding pretty well
LINK
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:45 pm to
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Coach, so he didn't say anything about our DL about to be drafted?

He did say that Jonathan Allen was a helluva player, but he didn't fit their scheme.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 7:53 pm to
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Any news on Nigel Knott, any chance at significant playing time this year?

I really wish someone would ask Saban about Knott. He is a special athlete
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3158 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:42 pm to
(it's because he isn't white that he thinks that.)
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:12 am to
Does anyone here actually think that the best offense for our quarterbacks is the Patriots offense? I can see us implementing some of their concepts. I expect a lot more mid range passing, but we're going to stay in the spread. Anything else would be trying to put a square peg in a round hole particularly with Jalen.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:16 am to
In regards to Tua specifically, I think he'd struggle in that offense because of his height. Most NFL teams with great short quarterbacks, Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, either move the launch point or have much more down the field passing than the Patriots. It'd be hard for Tua to even see the receiver on a lot of the routes the Pats run.

Also, we'd be wasting our receivers' outside skills in favor of having them get killed in the middle of the field.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 9:18 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:21 am to
I think I posted it when we hired Daboll, but find the game that Jacoby Brissett started when they had a week to implement a gameplan for him.

My best guess is we see a LOT of that. It was simpler (obviously) and more QB run/move pocket oriented while leaning on the power run game. However, their QB runs were a lot of power runs, counter runs and QB rollouts. There wasn't a lot of RPO stuff, it was more of using the QB almost as an extra RB. Like what Florida did a lot with Tebow.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 9:22 am
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