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re: So we are gonna be in the Top 3 tomorrow

Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:26 pm to
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Remember, this is Sims first year (too bad, I think he would be a nightmare with another). The expectations that he has to be perfect is outlandish.


It is not like he is a sophomore starting, he has been with the program for 5 years and looks at time like has not. Yes he may get some slack because the staff failed to get him more experience but how many QBs have been with Saban in his system for this long?

And where has anyone expected him to be perfect. Just because some of us are pumping his sunshine has nothing to do with an expectation he needs to be perfect.

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He has been far better in his first year then anyone else under Saban.


What is this based on. His yards may surpass GMac and AJ but our running game is no where on par with both of their starting years. GMac finished at 60.9 while going 14-0 and a NC in his 4th year with the program, AJ finished 66.8 while going 12-1 in his 3rd year while winning a NC as a starter, Blake is currently at 65.3 currently at 7-1 starting after his 5th year in the program.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 3:35 pm
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:45 pm to
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GMac finished at 60.9 while going 14-0 and a NC in his 4th year with the program, AJ finished 66.8 while going 12-1 in his 3rd year while winning a NC as a starter, Blake is currently at 65.3 currently at 7-1 starting after his 5th year in the program.


Sims has a sizable advantage in yards per attempt and passer rating both of which are more inclusive stats than completion percentage. He's also much better as a running threat and at keeping plays alive against the pass rush.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11836 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Sims has a sizable advantage in yards per attempt and passer rating both of which are more inclusive stats than completion percentage


Again our running game is not even close to what it was in 2009 or 2011. And lets not forget we did have Jones in 2009 but our 3rd best WR that year was Ingram. And poor AJ's top 3 WR were Maze, Smelly, and Richardson. Do actually believe GMac or AJ wouldnot have similar stats or ratings if they had the WRs Sims does? Come on now stats never paint the true picture.

Sims excels over any other QB under Saban in two areas. When he has to scramble and throws a pass on the run and his ability to run when need be. Both I am very impressed with. When he tucks and run he always seems to know where the 1st down marker is and does what he has to but not to much. Except that one QB sneak where he went straight up.
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 5:29 pm to
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Again our running game is not even close to what it was in 2009 or 2011. And lets not forget we did have Jones in 2009 but our 3rd best WR that year was Ingram. And poor AJ's top 3 WR were Maze, Smelly, and Richardson. Do actually believe GMac or AJ wouldnot have similar stats or ratings if they had the WRs Sims does? Come on now stats never paint the true picture.


Actually the run game is almost identical statistically to 09 believe it or not (the 09 team was probably more consistent though). As I recall those teams didn't deal with so many injuries on offense either.

And for the majority of the season besides Cooper we've had an injured White and an unproductive Jones.

I'm not really even arguing that he's been better than Gmac, or McCarron though. He has been more productive though and I don't see how anyone could say he cost us the game against OM. I think there's a chance he could cost us one if he keeps throwing it to the other team and they actually hold on to a few.

Looking forward I don't think anyone we face in the regular season or potentially in the post-season are significantly better on defense than Ole Miss. If Sims can play just slightly better than he did in that game, a game in which I don't think we called a single designed run for him, I like our chances to run the table as long as our defense holds up their end of the bargain.

ETA: My biggest concern is what we do without/with an injured Big Cam. Injuries suck
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 5:33 pm to
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And where has anyone expected him to be perfect. Just because some of us are pumping his sunshine has nothing to do with an expectation he needs to be perfect


When you guys are complaining about literally everything.. I mean even to the point of complaining about him getting another play wrist band? Then yeah, you're expecting him to be perfect and if he isn't you guys complain about it.

The guy has an insane 3rd down efficiency percentage, has been a great leader and has consistently gotten better. Yet look at some of the stuff being said. No other player is getting this treatment and the irony is Sims has been pretty damn good.



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What is this based on. His yards may surpass GMac and AJ but our running game is no where on par with both of their starting years.


Due to them having greatest of all-time offensive line to block for them. Who does Sims have blocking for him? Hell our freshman is our best lineman.

Do you see how many times Sims is under pressure? Could you imagine GMac or AJ playing with this line? A ton of dead drives because of a ton of sacks.


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GMac finished at 60.9 while going 14-0 and a NC in his 4th year with the program, AJ finished 66.8 while going 12-1 in his 3rd year while winning a NC as a starter, Blake is currently at 65.3 currently at 7-1 starting after his 5th year in the program


More excuses and a contorted way of spinning facts in order to feed a dead narrative. Tell me what AJ did his first year of starting? Both AJ and GMac had better teams surrounding them and did less.

The fact Blake is starting for the first time in his fifth year means nothing. Playing time > Years on bench. If you have ever played college ball you know a year of playing experience is like two or three of sitting and watching. Nothing is like actually playing and AJ after playing all those years even last year didn't look as good as Blake has looked at his best this year.






This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 5:39 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 5:39 pm to
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ETA: My biggest concern is what we do without/with an injured Big Cam. Injuries suck


Good thing is we have a good two-weeks to figure this one out. What horrible timing for that injury though..
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11836 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 5:59 pm to
Plain and simple I disagree with you and not sure why that makes you so mad. I am sorry you value your opinion as fact and think you are the only sane one because what you believe. Again never said anything about him being perfect but please feel free to keep putting words in my mouth. In regards to the wrist band I did not know he lost it all I saw is him going to the sideline looking lost and asking what to do and getting the band, just like the other 70 people at the viewing also thought at the time. If that gets your panties in a wad sorry.

I have also never said he was not good just I am not convinced he can carry the team to a NC. Hopefully I am wrong but I will not apologize for my opinion because someone sitting on a keyboard dislikes it.

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Do you see how many times Sims is under pressure? Could you imagine GMac or AJ playing with this line? A ton of dead drives because of a ton of sacks.


Again your opinion not a fact.

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More excuses and a contorted way of spinning facts in order to feed a dead narrative


What excuse am I making. You make him the GOAT under Saban all I did is compare stats nothing more. Where do you see an excuse. All I am trying to say I do not see that much of a difference in what he has done thus far, which would also imply he could finish as strong as they did their first year which is with a NC, but I have my reservations on that. Again my opinion and unlike yours it is not a fact.

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Tell me what AJ did his first year of starting?


I did already those were his stats his first year starting in 2011 after being in the program for only three years. And for the record I was never a fan of AJ and still am not.

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No other player is getting this treatment and the irony is Sims has been pretty damn good.


And yes AJ was last year by the end of the season. How little we forget here on the rant. He is the QB and history has proven the QB is under the microscope more than any other player on the team.

And lets clarify something here I never directed anything to you just discussing posts that had been posted. You made it personal so go buy yourself a Sims jersey and sit at the bar and tell people how it is a fact based on what you believe that he is the GOAT under Saban.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 7:22 pm to
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And yes AJ was last year by the end of the season. How little we forget here on the rant. He is the QB and history has proven the QB is under the microscope more than any other player on the team


This. I wish I could find the post I made last year when I was in traffic outside of Davis Wade stadium after AJ's performance there. Sims criticisms are nothing new. Hell, if the Alabama Sports Board existed during McElroy's tenure you would have read a lot worse, too. There was one guy who used to post on the SECr under the username "Bench McElroy"

This must be his first time frequenting message boards during the season because frying the quarterback is nothing new. And when Coker/Cornwell/Bateman start next year it will likely be more of the same thing.
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