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re: SIAP but do you think Bama came out unmotivated?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:02 am to Carolina Tide
Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:02 am to Carolina Tide
I don't think motivation was a factor. The players played hard. Preparation and/or skill were the problem. The Bama D simply did not match up with spread/fast teams with a mobile QB.
Even with Ga southern a couple years ago we saw the symptoms. With an old fashioned wishbone, they ran for over 300 yards with FCS talent. Hell, this issue really first reared its head in 08 with Utah.
The Bama D is built to stop I-formation power run teams. Not air raid/spread. That's why we match up so well with LSU.
Even with Ga southern a couple years ago we saw the symptoms. With an old fashioned wishbone, they ran for over 300 yards with FCS talent. Hell, this issue really first reared its head in 08 with Utah.
The Bama D is built to stop I-formation power run teams. Not air raid/spread. That's why we match up so well with LSU.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:06 am to Broken Coyote
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Preparation
This can come from a lack of motivation and an expectation that 75% effort will win you the game
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 4:07 am
Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:15 pm to Carolina Tide
They couldn't believe the other team actually thought they could win. Utah 2.0
Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:21 pm to Broken Coyote
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I don't think motivation was a factor. The players played hard. Preparation and/or skill were the problem. The Bama D simply did not match up with spread/fast teams with a mobile QB.
Even with Ga southern a couple years ago we saw the symptoms. With an old fashioned wishbone, they ran for over 300 yards with FCS talent. Hell, this issue really first reared its head in 08 with Utah.
The Bama D is built to stop I-formation power run teams. Not air raid/spread. That's why we match up so well with LSU.
You do realize we have beat far more spread teams at Bama under Saban than we have power teams? That Saban beat Tim Tebow remember? That Spread/Fast teams (whatever that means exactly) aren't really related from an actual X's/O's standpoint including how to stop them?
GA Southern came out and moved the ball on us because they were motivated and we weren't installing a whole new defense to handle the Veer. Especially when GA Southern wasn't even a spread option team they were an old school flexbone veer team.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 2:59 pm to Libertyabides71
lack of motivation had nothing to do with it ... that's a cop out by fans who don't want to admit the better team that night won ... ou had a better gameplan, plain and simple ... bama was motivated, but motivation doesn't overcome a change in offensive planning that results in the qb having the game of his life ... nor does it overcome lack of offensive planning on bama's part ...
Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:05 pm to Carolina Tide
I thought 4 turnovers was the problem. As an objective viewer, Bama looked like the better team. OK did play their asses off though, and took advantage of the turnovers.
45-31
28 points for OK on turnovers.
Without the turnovers, could have been 59-17 Bama.
45-31
28 points for OK on turnovers.
Without the turnovers, could have been 59-17 Bama.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:11 pm to tiderider
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Bama was motivated
Where did you see that? I saw a bunch of listless players on the sideline that, with a few exceptions, didn't seem to care either way. I saw an OU sideline the was jumping up and down. The energy coming from that sideline was unmistakable.
The rest of your post I agree with. I think Nuss had a spinner on which play to call in the booth. I think Smart looked clueless in the first half.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:40 pm to Carolina Tide
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I think this was true too. I had a slight uneasy feeling about this game. I was the same one I got before Auburn. I knew it wasn't going to be a blowout.
Yep this.
Our fans are also suffering from entitlement. Crazy fans either need to get a grip or find another team.
I am proud of my team.
Sometimes you have to be "knocked down" so you can get up again ala Chumbawumba....remember that song.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:48 pm to Carolina Tide
I think we were motivated, but our offensive gameplan was shite. You can't come out throwing the ball against a B12 team that defends HUNH offenses all year and expect to maintain success. After that TJY fumble, it's like we just went full retard and didn't know wtf to do.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:30 pm to bamabenny
We sure did. And OU was able to capitalize on that and score a td. After that all they had to do was play keep away, and the rest is history.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:54 pm to Carolina Tide
People need to stop trying to make this out to be like the Utah game, it was not.
Alabama was plenty motivated and was moving the ball up and down the field.
Turning the ball over doesn't indicate a lack of motivation.
We made tons of horrible plays out of bad execution and OU played great, that's why we lost.
Alabama was plenty motivated and was moving the ball up and down the field.
Turning the ball over doesn't indicate a lack of motivation.
We made tons of horrible plays out of bad execution and OU played great, that's why we lost.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:31 pm to deeprig9
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I thought 4 turnovers was the problem. As an objective viewer, Bama looked like the better team. OK did play their asses off though, and took advantage of the turnovers.
45-31
28 points for OK on turnovers.
Without the turnovers, could have been 59-17 Bama.
Jesus, THAT many points off of turnovers.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:29 pm to Carolina Tide
I don't think that was the problem at all. Our weaknesses that had been there all along (the O-line, secondary) were just exposed to a higher degree
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:25 am to Bama Bird
No, I think they were motivated. They were not lackadaisical. They were on the field trying to pump up the crowd and looked like they really wanted to win. Oklahoma played big on 3rd down and zapped the life out of them a few times, but it wasn't bc they didn't want it.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:46 am to Brodeur
This was nothing like Utah. We didn't come out unmotivated. Oklahoma certainly beat us. We turned the ball over 5 times (two interceptions, 3 fumbles lost). That isn't bad play calling. That is not a lack of preparation. That is simply a lack of execution. Despite 5 turnovers we still had over 500 yards of total offense. They scored 28 points off of turnovers. We scored 31 points despite 5 turnovers. If we pull our heads out of our own asses and execute on just two of the drives we turned the ball over on and they subsequently scored then we win a shoot out that we still cover the spread in. Everyone around here is happy. That is us running the same plays and everything. All it took was just a little more effort, just a little more toughness stuff these players had already displayed before in spades. So despite the problems no one better trash our players, no one better trash our coaches. It was simply the fact that us and Oklahoma both came to play and they were better. You don't have to shite the bed to get beat, though we did when it came to execution.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:03 am to Libertyabides71
When it comes down to it, everything listed was a problem. We were not a mentally tough team and that affected us when OU started punching back. The turnovers killed us. Players did not execute. Our coaching staff got embarrassed.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 1:17 pm to FairhopeTider
Against mobile QBs the last 2 years, Bama has had the same gameplan. The same one they used against Michigan last year. Don't rush the QB and make him pass. That works if the QB can't pass or you have very goo DBs. Bama changed their D in the 2nd half and OU only scored 7 points on offense.
I thought the offensive gameplan was good in the first half, because we knew OU was going to load the box and try to stop the run. In the 2nd half Bama should have pounded the ball.
I thought the offensive gameplan was good in the first half, because we knew OU was going to load the box and try to stop the run. In the 2nd half Bama should have pounded the ball.
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