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re: SIAP but do you think Bama came out unmotivated?

Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:02 am to
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:02 am to
I don't think motivation was a factor. The players played hard. Preparation and/or skill were the problem. The Bama D simply did not match up with spread/fast teams with a mobile QB.

Even with Ga southern a couple years ago we saw the symptoms. With an old fashioned wishbone, they ran for over 300 yards with FCS talent. Hell, this issue really first reared its head in 08 with Utah.

The Bama D is built to stop I-formation power run teams. Not air raid/spread. That's why we match up so well with LSU.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:06 am to
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Preparation


This can come from a lack of motivation and an expectation that 75% effort will win you the game
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 4:07 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:15 pm to
They couldn't believe the other team actually thought they could win. Utah 2.0
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

I don't think motivation was a factor. The players played hard. Preparation and/or skill were the problem. The Bama D simply did not match up with spread/fast teams with a mobile QB.

Even with Ga southern a couple years ago we saw the symptoms. With an old fashioned wishbone, they ran for over 300 yards with FCS talent. Hell, this issue really first reared its head in 08 with Utah.

The Bama D is built to stop I-formation power run teams. Not air raid/spread. That's why we match up so well with LSU.



You do realize we have beat far more spread teams at Bama under Saban than we have power teams? That Saban beat Tim Tebow remember? That Spread/Fast teams (whatever that means exactly) aren't really related from an actual X's/O's standpoint including how to stop them?

GA Southern came out and moved the ball on us because they were motivated and we weren't installing a whole new defense to handle the Veer. Especially when GA Southern wasn't even a spread option team they were an old school flexbone veer team.
Posted by tiderider
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 2:59 pm to
lack of motivation had nothing to do with it ... that's a cop out by fans who don't want to admit the better team that night won ... ou had a better gameplan, plain and simple ... bama was motivated, but motivation doesn't overcome a change in offensive planning that results in the qb having the game of his life ... nor does it overcome lack of offensive planning on bama's part ...
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:05 pm to
I thought 4 turnovers was the problem. As an objective viewer, Bama looked like the better team. OK did play their asses off though, and took advantage of the turnovers.

45-31

28 points for OK on turnovers.

Without the turnovers, could have been 59-17 Bama.




Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Bama was motivated


Where did you see that? I saw a bunch of listless players on the sideline that, with a few exceptions, didn't seem to care either way. I saw an OU sideline the was jumping up and down. The energy coming from that sideline was unmistakable.

The rest of your post I agree with. I think Nuss had a spinner on which play to call in the booth. I think Smart looked clueless in the first half.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:40 pm to
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I think this was true too. I had a slight uneasy feeling about this game. I was the same one I got before Auburn. I knew it wasn't going to be a blowout.

Yep this.
Our fans are also suffering from entitlement. Crazy fans either need to get a grip or find another team.
I am proud of my team.
Sometimes you have to be "knocked down" so you can get up again ala Chumbawumba....remember that song.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 3:48 pm to
I think we were motivated, but our offensive gameplan was shite. You can't come out throwing the ball against a B12 team that defends HUNH offenses all year and expect to maintain success. After that TJY fumble, it's like we just went full retard and didn't know wtf to do.
Posted by Carolina Tide
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:30 pm to
We sure did. And OU was able to capitalize on that and score a td. After that all they had to do was play keep away, and the rest is history.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 4:54 pm to
People need to stop trying to make this out to be like the Utah game, it was not.

Alabama was plenty motivated and was moving the ball up and down the field.

Turning the ball over doesn't indicate a lack of motivation.

We made tons of horrible plays out of bad execution and OU played great, that's why we lost.
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 8:31 pm to
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I thought 4 turnovers was the problem. As an objective viewer, Bama looked like the better team. OK did play their asses off though, and took advantage of the turnovers.

45-31

28 points for OK on turnovers.

Without the turnovers, could have been 59-17 Bama.



Jesus, THAT many points off of turnovers.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:29 pm to
I don't think that was the problem at all. Our weaknesses that had been there all along (the O-line, secondary) were just exposed to a higher degree
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:25 am to
No, I think they were motivated. They were not lackadaisical. They were on the field trying to pump up the crowd and looked like they really wanted to win. Oklahoma played big on 3rd down and zapped the life out of them a few times, but it wasn't bc they didn't want it.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:46 am to
This was nothing like Utah. We didn't come out unmotivated. Oklahoma certainly beat us. We turned the ball over 5 times (two interceptions, 3 fumbles lost). That isn't bad play calling. That is not a lack of preparation. That is simply a lack of execution. Despite 5 turnovers we still had over 500 yards of total offense. They scored 28 points off of turnovers. We scored 31 points despite 5 turnovers. If we pull our heads out of our own asses and execute on just two of the drives we turned the ball over on and they subsequently scored then we win a shoot out that we still cover the spread in. Everyone around here is happy. That is us running the same plays and everything. All it took was just a little more effort, just a little more toughness stuff these players had already displayed before in spades. So despite the problems no one better trash our players, no one better trash our coaches. It was simply the fact that us and Oklahoma both came to play and they were better. You don't have to shite the bed to get beat, though we did when it came to execution.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:03 am to
When it comes down to it, everything listed was a problem. We were not a mentally tough team and that affected us when OU started punching back. The turnovers killed us. Players did not execute. Our coaching staff got embarrassed.

Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12223 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 1:17 pm to
Against mobile QBs the last 2 years, Bama has had the same gameplan. The same one they used against Michigan last year. Don't rush the QB and make him pass. That works if the QB can't pass or you have very goo DBs. Bama changed their D in the 2nd half and OU only scored 7 points on offense.

I thought the offensive gameplan was good in the first half, because we knew OU was going to load the box and try to stop the run. In the 2nd half Bama should have pounded the ball.
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