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re: Rumor coming out about younger guys

Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:43 am to
Posted by doghouse_4x4
Tidewater, Va.
Member since Dec 2013
1328 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:43 am to
quote:

It was me guys..it was me...I'm sick of our success.


I knew it!

Seriously though, Saban will deal with these guys. If people aren't buying in, they will hit the bricks.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Vinnie won us the tamu game

No, he didn't.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:46 am to
I have a question pvilleguru....why do you not care about the successes of Bama players when they go pro?
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:54 am to
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No, he didn't


Yeah his pick six had nothing to do with us winning the game. Our secondary seemed in disarray a lot of the times without Vinnie making sure everyone was in position.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:54 am to
I don't watch the NFL. Once they are done at Alabama, I lose interest in them.
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
Member since Jul 2012
2658 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:55 am to
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These kids come from an environment where they had some power over playing time from park ball to high school. That is over. Take some kids some time to get that. Some never do.


I agree. I played on travel teams growing up and it always seemed like the more talent that our team had the more "friction" we had the locker room. The prima donnas would complain about playing time, game plans or production from other teammates yet they would play lackadaisically themselves. The prima donna mentality is a cancer in the locker room and will destroy the mentality/morale of a very talented team. Its crazy how just a few bad apples can spoil the bunch.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:58 am to
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Yeah his pick six had nothing to do with us winning the game.

Please, that interception was gifted to him. He could have fielded it like a punt. He wasn't in position to make a play on the receiver. He was able to just sit under it because it was tipped 20' up.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:07 am to
Can you argue that Haha or Landon were as good at getting guys in position as Sunseri? The importance of that given all of our young players cannot be overstated. His leadership on the field was sorely missed. Not to mention he was one of the best against the run. We missed him against AU.
Posted by frankreynolds
Member since Jan 2012
896 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:18 am to
His return was the part that was spectacular. Took all the athleticism he had and he got it in the end zone.
Posted by BamalaAnderson
Member since Nov 2012
272 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:19 am to
How does anyone know if this is true? You don't. Perhaps some would be saying these things to highten their prospects of playing time.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:24 am to
You have to look at what a clusterfrick that weekend, which was supposed to be our biggest, was in recruiting. Travis Rudolph, Jalen Tabor, and Leonard Fournette visited. All top targets and none committed. On top of that Hootie decommits and Whitley flips. Too many factors to just call it coincidence.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:30 am to
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Can you argue that Haha or Landon were as good at getting guys in position as Sunseri?

Maybe not, but once the ball is in play, I think LC is better at every facet than VS.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:33 am to
In every facet? No. Vinnie was better at run support than Landon. And maybe if we had Vinnie on the field to get guys in position, Eddie Jackson and Cyrus Jones would not have looked so lost at times.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:39 am to
Landon was fantastic in run support. Especially in the flats.
Posted by Alabiker
Alabama Gulf Coast
Member since Aug 2012
502 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:40 am to
At least on this board, most of us don't claim to know for certain things that we say we "hear." But most of us also don't post out of our arse. We save that for the SECr. I belong to another great Bama forum that has access to a lot of pay sites, and they present what they get from those. Most of it is rumor. And as we see in recruiting, rumor means shite.

But there seem to be several sources for this, all of them mentioning Kamara. And a lot of bad mojo that weekend.

This ain't a news organization. It's a message board. We hear things, we pass 'em on.
Posted by Alabiker
Alabama Gulf Coast
Member since Aug 2012
502 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:45 am to
Our defense has looked much more disorganized since Vinnie's been out. And STs went downhill when Vinnie went down. Our D was better when both were on the field. And if Vinnie had been holding for Griffith on that last second FG try, he wouldn't have been standing around watching. VS never stands around watching.
Posted by tt54l32v
Member since Oct 2012
832 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:19 am to
Special teams suffered after Vinnie because Landon was not out there any more.
Posted by T Rey WI
Back in the south where I belong!
Member since Dec 2010
2937 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 11:24 am to
LC is faster. LC can jump. I heard VS tried to jump once but not sure it worked out well for him. In EVERY other area that has to do with actually playing the game of football, VS is better than LC.

VS reads the play and recognises what is about to happen far better than LC. the result is he gets 1 or 2 steps closer to the point of attack before LC starts moving that way. When LC starts moving, his speed allows him to make up ground quickly. The further away the play is the better the chance LC will get there at the same time or quicker than VS. LC also arrives at a higher speed so if his read is off just a little, he is more likely to over-shoot or not be able to break down as well to adjust to a cutback. When LC messes up his speed takes him further out of possition.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 1:31 pm to
That is one of the problems you run into with highly ranked kids. They almost all think they are the best to ever set foot on a field and they don't understand that once they are out of their small town there are others with just as much if not more talent than they have.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15847 posts
Posted on 1/7/14 at 2:33 pm to
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LC is faster. LC can jump. I heard VS tried to jump once but not sure it worked out well for him. In EVERY other area that has to do with actually playing the game of football, VS is better than LC. VS reads the play and recognises what is about to happen far better than LC. the result is he gets 1 or 2 steps closer to the point of attack before LC starts moving that way. When LC starts moving, his speed allows him to make up ground quickly. The further away the play is the better the chance LC will get there at the same time or quicker than VS. LC also arrives at a higher speed so if his read is off just a little, he is more likely to over-shoot or not be able to break down as well to adjust to a cutback. When LC messes up his speed takes him further out of possition.



THIS. a perfect explanation why Vinnie was starting.
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