Roy Moore vs. Doug Jones

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When Larry was found guilty and someone outside of the courthouse asked, "how is this going to effect Birmingham's chances of hosting the Olympics". I damn near died

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WE'LL DO THE JAVELIN THROWS AT BIRMINGHAM SOUTHERN. SWIMMING? THE POOL DOWN BY THE OLE STEEL MILL.

His interview on Finebaum is one of the greatest 30 minutes of radio I've ever heard.

Roy

You can't even fairly criticize Roy without half this board calling you a racist. I'm not saying he's not good, I just wish he was better.

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please folks anyone, but those 2.

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Nights like tonight make me sad for our state. We absolutely suck when it comes to electing politicians.

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Well the way I see it...at least the state is smart enough not to fall for the corruption wing. Luther's quid-pro-quo appointment is corrupt as it gets, and it makes no sense to send more corruption to Washington.

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If you want some perspective for how bad it will be, in the primaries Moore got 39% of the R vote, but his total was 500 votes short of being enough to beat every candidate in the D primary COMBINED. 

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It's frustrating that having a "D" next to your name makes you less likely to be voted in than the guy who has been removed from office twice for ethics violations.

I'm editing this post because I misread the title. I thought we were discussing Moore vs. Strange.

I'll be voting for Jones. frick roy moore. I wish people would stop voting on party lines. Political parties are probably the number 1 problem with politics.

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Electing Moore shows that the state, once again, fell his charlaton act.

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He's absolutely a charlatan, but don't underestimate him. He's also an incredibly skilled candidate (note I said candidate, not leader or ever official). If you've ever been around him at an event, he can work a room with the best of them. He also is amazingly astute at reading the climate and picking the right time to strike. The only time he's really messed up was with his Ten Commandments rock. That was going to be his springboard to the governor's mansion. It would have worked, but he played is hand 6 months too soon. If he'd waited until the election was less than a year away he would have won easily.

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It's frustrating that having a "D" next to your name makes you less likely to be voted in than the guy who has been removed from office twice for ethics violations.

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I will give Moore one bit of credit. His ethics violations have been the Canons, not what we think of in terms of traditional ethics. In a nutshell, he breaks lawyer rules but nobody has yet seriously accused him of pocketing public money.

Democrats in Alabama are in a tough place for a couple of reasons. The first is the same one that has them in trouble in almost every state. As the national party continues to move left, they're losing more and more of the heartland. Look at the county map of the last presidential election. Only the large metropolitan areas on the coasts and heavily minority (mainly African American) areas are blue. Further, 32 state houses are completely R and 6 more are split - winning one more of those split houses would give the ability to invoke Article 5 and call a constitutional convention without involving congress. Flipping 4 would give the ability to ratify amendments without needing help.

So, that's already a major uphill battle in conservative Alabama but they have another factor here, which is that the state party is led by Nancy Worley and Joe Reed. They've driven it to the brink of financial insolvency and turned it into a minority-only party. There is ONE white Democrat in the state senate and only five white democrats in the House, with one of those being an openly gay female. Race is important because it correlates pretty well to location. Their legislative officeholders are mostly in Jefferson County and then in the very poor and sparsely populated areas of the state.

So it doesn't really matter that they have to fight against a national platform that doesn't play well here because they very few candidates that are truly electable because they don't have a statewide name recognition and they lack the ability to raise the funds needed to mount a statewide campaign.

I'm a conservative that virtually always votes R, but I wish they D party was stronger. Whenever either party is in total control and has nothing to fear from the other side, it is a 100% certainty that they will mess around and go full 'tard on lots of issues.