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re: Official Fall Camp Discussion Thread - Who Wants to Wear Out That Trojan arse?
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:50 pm to MagillaGuerilla
Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:50 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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They slowed up real fast on Kongbo.
From what I had heard is that Kongbo would have come to Bama, but it fell apart after Saban made a trip out to see him in person. I'm not sure if it was his size or what.
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Posted on 8/27/16 at 10:53 pm to MagillaGuerilla
Back to Trojan a$$....
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:03 pm to Five0
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:34 pm to CrimsonBoz
Boz, has your player source indicated who the team supports in the QB race? IMO, that's who wins the job.
And I agree completely with Phil4Bama earlier with his scenario - until the end. I think that one QB or the other would win the team before it played out too long. All it takes is a handful of plays to cement yourself as the emotional heart of the offense, see Coker.
And I agree completely with Phil4Bama earlier with his scenario - until the end. I think that one QB or the other would win the team before it played out too long. All it takes is a handful of plays to cement yourself as the emotional heart of the offense, see Coker.
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:37 pm to Five0
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:37 pm to prevatt33
And I'll definitely say this:
Everyone knows where I stand on Redshirt Junior versus True Freshman, and that I don't think Bateman is nearly as bad as many folks make out. However, if Hurts knows the offense/sets/plays,etc. well, Bateman has lost any advantage he may have had in winning the job.
EDIT: ...True Freshman...
Everyone knows where I stand on Redshirt Junior versus True Freshman, and that I don't think Bateman is nearly as bad as many folks make out. However, if Hurts knows the offense/sets/plays,etc. well, Bateman has lost any advantage he may have had in winning the job.
EDIT: ...True Freshman...
This post was edited on 8/27/16 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 8/27/16 at 11:39 pm to Cobrasize
The McMillon thing is a bummer. He has a lot of potential I just never could see him playing MLB in our system. The days of a 240lb MLB are gone in CF. Really liked the idea of him moving to either Jack or even doing the Jon Allen move to DE. But it is what it is.
Feels like Dwight has been moved all over. Not sure he would ever play but it's always nice to have a big body who's been around just in case. That being said probably better in the long run for Q. Williams or OJ Smith to get those mop up snaps anyway. DL might be our thinnest group right now... Really need Raekwon in that mix.
As far as knowing the entire playbook... Is that really what we need? IMO it's way better just to be able to run the shite out of a dozen plays over and over. I feel like when Kiffin gets cute bad stuff happens. But ultamitely, the plays Hurts can make with his feet are his best plays. And please... Don't want to hear how Bateman can make the same type of plays with his feet. Hurts is a special athlete.
Feels like Dwight has been moved all over. Not sure he would ever play but it's always nice to have a big body who's been around just in case. That being said probably better in the long run for Q. Williams or OJ Smith to get those mop up snaps anyway. DL might be our thinnest group right now... Really need Raekwon in that mix.
As far as knowing the entire playbook... Is that really what we need? IMO it's way better just to be able to run the shite out of a dozen plays over and over. I feel like when Kiffin gets cute bad stuff happens. But ultamitely, the plays Hurts can make with his feet are his best plays. And please... Don't want to hear how Bateman can make the same type of plays with his feet. Hurts is a special athlete.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:14 am to CrimReaper1
I also like the idea that no matter who wins the job, our backup is a capable option with lots of reps. And especially if Hurts does win the job. If we go with a running QB, then I like having a solid backup option. Injuries happen. I definitely feel better about our backup QB than our backup at some other positions.
And thank God for Harris. Scarborough gets papercuts in paper football.
And thank God for Harris. Scarborough gets papercuts in paper football.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 12:17 am
Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:25 am to prevatt33
Agree with this.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:26 am to CrimsonBoz
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Seems like I missed a lot.
Bo is hot and cold. Some practices all over it some he kind of has a I don't care attitude.
As far as the scrimmages go: hurts has looked the best in both, followed by Barnett in the first one and his huge meltdown in the 2nd one. Bateman was just meh but with his share of picks.
Someone mentioned does hurts know the playbook. Yes he does and he runs more plays than any of the other qbs. Not only read but our other sets. I haven't seen him mess up a single play, he gets people set and rolls. I'm sure the reading defense will get better over time but from what I have seen he is at least on par.
Obviously I just want us to win but this situation is odd. One guy is just way more talented than the rest and I understand the worry of hey what if he just loses his shite and we crumble. I think the best way for this to go is hurts starts, short leash, if he goes bad Bateman comes in and runs the offense plain. If you do it the other way it could be worse.
Hurts has looked by far the best in practice according to what I've heard.
We just have to trust the coaches and roll on. I'll know more this coming week.
Oh and btw expect Mcmillion and Dwight to transfer.
Yeah I have to agree that starting hurts and then resorting from there is better than not starting him. If he starts, he's going to be the most hyped player in college football after he rips SC a new arse. I am a Barnett fan just because of size, moxy, and accuracy. I get that he's not as good as McCarron at decision making, but because of the fact that he reminds me of AJ is why I am partial to him.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 2:52 am to South Alabama Tide
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Yeah I have to agree that starting hurts and then resorting from there is better than not starting him. If he starts, he's going to be the most hyped player in college football after he rips SC a new arse.
A word comes to mind, meekness. Please don't confuse it with weakness. Those two words are polar opposites.
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There are two essential components for this quality to come into play in the Bible: a conflict in which an individual is unable to control or influence circumstances. Typical human responses in such circumstances include frustration, bitterness, or anger, but the one who is guided by God's spirit accepts God's ability to direct events ( Gal 5:23 ; Eph 4:2 ; Col 3:12 ; 1 Tim 6:11 ; Titus 3:2 ; James 1:21 ; 3:13 ). Meekness is therefore an active and deliberate acceptance of undesirable circumstances that are wisely seen by the individual as only part of a larger picture. Meekness is not a resignation to fate, a passive and reluctant submission to events, for there is little virtue in such a response. Nevertheless, since the two responsesresignation and meeknessare externally often indistinguishable, it is easy to see how what was once perceived as a virtue has become a defect in contemporary society. The patient and hopeful endurance of undesirable circumstances identifies the person as externally vulnerable and weak but inwardly resilient and strong. Meekness does not identify the weak but more precisely the strong who have been placed in a position of weakness where they persevere without giving up. The use of the Greek word when applied to animals makes this clear, for it means "tame" when applied to wild animals. In other words, such animals have not lost their strength but have learned to control the destructive instincts that prevent them from living in harmony with others.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:30 am to prevatt33
Each qb has some support and who has more is hard to say.
Tim Williams, Ryan Anderson, and Jon Allen seem to support hurts while Barrett's class seemed to support him. Since he is kind of out of it not sure where that vote went. Bateman has mixed support from his class.
This was just an observation but after hurts ran his TD in the last scrimmage the entire 1's defense was jumping around smacking him etc.
Tim Williams, Ryan Anderson, and Jon Allen seem to support hurts while Barrett's class seemed to support him. Since he is kind of out of it not sure where that vote went. Bateman has mixed support from his class.
This was just an observation but after hurts ran his TD in the last scrimmage the entire 1's defense was jumping around smacking him etc.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:44 am to CrimsonBoz
I hate to say this....but Bo Scarborough just isn't going to make it through a season healthy. He's been hurt every season and he hasn't even really played yet.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 7:59 am to saban n bear
Yep. I said way earlier in the thread that I'm afraid he's one of those insanely talented players that just can't stay healthy enough to realize his potential.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:03 am to bamarep
Boz, a little different question. What is really the deal with Cornwell? Does he really have a foot injury? You didn't hear anything about it all through summer and suddenly when fall camp opened, he was DOA in the QB race. I thought he might provide some competition and a different look. I would assume he's now done at Bama and is biding his time until Dec/Jan when he will transfer.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:45 am to phil4bama
NS mentioned that he has had a nagging injury in one of his earliest pressers when camp opened. So I assume it limited his ability to participate in 7x7 when the players did their own thing.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 10:05 am to phil4bama
He is legit injured I heard something along the lines of surgery is needed but he is kind of able to participate. My first thought was turf toe then my player source said he thought he got stepped on. So I am not 100% sure.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 11:59 am to CrimReaper1
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IMO it's way better just to be able to run the shite out of a dozen plays over and over. I feel like when Kiffin gets cute bad stuff happens.
Thats the beauty of having a QB like Hurts who can handle the Pro aspects of the system while having the ability to run the RPO at any given moment.
The RPO plays can be run out of almost infinitely different formations to confuse the defenses, but basically remain the same half dozen plays or so relative to what the QB has to execute/look for/read.
This could not be a better situation for a younger QB. Hurts is by far the safer bet in all this due to being able to simplify the offense, and the offense remain lethal.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 8/28/16 at 12:02 pm to South Alabama Tide
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I am a Barnett fan just because of size, moxy, and accuracy.
Dew Wut ? You like his accuracy ? So, lemme get this straight... you like how accurately he hits the DB's in the numbers ? I'm not following you here.
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:49 pm to PowHound
I know this is the wrong thread for this, but this thread receives the most traffic, so...
Is there a legit argument for Alabama being LBU over Penn State? If so, what is it?
Is there a legit argument for Alabama being LBU over Penn State? If so, what is it?
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