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re: NCAA President - no sympathy for coaches, not favorable to transfer restrictions
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:16 pm to Teague
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:16 pm to Teague
NIL and the open transfer rules COMBINED together, have created the disaster. Its not necessarily one or the other that is wrong, but putting them together was and is toxic and unsustainable.
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:02 pm to Teague
I think the players should all get a % of the revenues generated set aside in a trust account they gain access to after no longer being eligible... leave early for the draft, graduate, whatever.
Now that means the star QB's cut is the same as scholarship player #85...but splitting the team into financial haves and have nots is just a disaster.
Of course, the schools themselves don't want to give up a dime of revenue to players and prefer to just say "go make whatever money yourself"...but it's just not working... especially for a team environment.
And the transfer portal is the biggest negative. Whatever the answer is, you simply can't have a system where you have to
re-recruit your own team every year. There will have to be a contractual element. The NFL has contracts. Is it "fair" Mahomes can't be hired by Jerry Jones and the Cowboys for a 1 year $75 million contract and then to another highest bidding team a year later?
Now that means the star QB's cut is the same as scholarship player #85...but splitting the team into financial haves and have nots is just a disaster.
Of course, the schools themselves don't want to give up a dime of revenue to players and prefer to just say "go make whatever money yourself"...but it's just not working... especially for a team environment.
And the transfer portal is the biggest negative. Whatever the answer is, you simply can't have a system where you have to
re-recruit your own team every year. There will have to be a contractual element. The NFL has contracts. Is it "fair" Mahomes can't be hired by Jerry Jones and the Cowboys for a 1 year $75 million contract and then to another highest bidding team a year later?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:47 pm to Teague
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Message NCAA President - no sympathy for coaches, not favorable to transfer restrictions by Teague The start of this stuff was the beginning of the end, and everyone over the age of 20, deep down knew it. Unless they find some way to put the toothpaste back in the tube, college sports, on the level we knew, are done. There's no reason to watch a shittier version of the NFL.
This is in a nutshell. The top programs just need to quit the BS of pretending to be an “amateur sport” and just run the damn thing like a business.
CFB has been sliding into professionalism for 20+ years now, and utterly DIED 2-3 years ago when NIL started. I’ll always be an Alabama fan. But frankly, I’ve felt no desire to watch ANY game we weren’t playing for 5-6 years now. I’ve never once watched (or cared about) any P_ayoff Title game we weren’t in.
Quit the tired mythology: make the players real employees. give them contracts with insurance for injuries and PENALTIES for BS like arrests OR transfers. And just admit it’s AAA NFL-lite.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:30 pm to YStar
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but when coaches walk out on players for better opportunities and more money why wouldn't players follow their lead?
bullshite. Does an entire NFL roster become free agents when a coach leaves?
Why the frick should college players get a benefit that pros don't get?
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:47 pm to BamaGradinTn
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BamaGradinTn
You keep this up you crotchety old bastard and we might have to become best friends in real life.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:59 am to Chad4Bama
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I think the players should all get a % of the revenues generated set aside in a trust account they gain access to after no longer being eligible... leave early for the draft, graduate, whatever.
In a revenue sharing structure, revenue can be impacted by long term stability. I the player does not meet the contract requirements the shared revenue should be foreited.
Stay for 3 years and declare for the draft. Stay 4 years and retire from the sport. You are vested.
Get processed, you are vested and free to go elsewhere.
Breakteam rules and get cut, lose your shares. Transfer out before being vested, lose your shares. Get kicked out of school, shares are lost. Don't meet GPA requirements, shares are lost.
Transfer in, vesting timeline is part of the contract.
All university provided perks are tied to being "in good standing" and end the moment you break from a good standing status.
Walk-on players are included in the revenue sharing and penalty structures so long as they are "in good standing" with all team and university rules.
NIL contracts are open market rules. They should be annual contract with early departure penalties. They should also have behavioral penalties. You break the rules, payment stops and penaties are applied. You leaveearly, payment stops and penaties are applied.
The players want to be payed like it is a business? Treat them like it is a business. Contract law can be a bitch and that bitch has teeth.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:33 am to TideSaint
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BamaGradinTn
You keep this up you crotchety old bastard and we might have to become best friends in real life
A sign of the apocalypse!
Many of us have an internet persona that is probably quite different than the real one. We'd probably enjoy talking football over a cold one.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:12 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
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"One of the things I hear from kids when I talk to them about this issue is, 'Coaches walk out on their contracts. What about us?''
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Thoughts?
My thoughts are that the players he's been talking to, don't know shite about contracts. Coaches (or the schools that hire them) pay MILLIONS to buy out those contracts early. It seems like he is disingenuously framing the argument to achieve his desired outcome.
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