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Joel Klatt said our 2019 team was better than 2020

Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted by The Silverback
Neptune
Member since May 2013
2036 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:51 pm
Did anyone catch this? He seems to put out good content, but there’s objective evidence that suggests 2020 was better than 2019.

Additionally, some try to say 2018 was even better and our best team ever. That team had crazy talent but was vulnerable.

Where would you guys rank our 2012 team? I miss those times. Loved that team (and that era).
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:54 pm to
I'm sure my answer would be different if I poured over statistic for hours.. but from a purely fan perspective:

2012 was one of my favorite Bama teams. That DL was nasty, and unblockable. They made tons of plays. I have never had more confidence in a defense to create turnovers.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:54 pm to
Klatt has mad some terrible arguments of late. That was completely wrong and just glancing at Rosters. When talking about why he voted for Penix over JD for Heisman his logic was literally Penix "overcame" his tough games and JD didn't. When Daniels performed better in pretty much every big game and had a much, much worse defense. He's clearly biased for his network. Is what it is
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22378 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:36 pm to
Klatt has turned into a homer for the leagues his network broadcasts in the same way people accuse Herbstreit of.
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19089 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:43 pm to
If 2019 had anything that resembled a defense, and if Tua doesn't get injured, then I would agree. As it happened, 2020 was a better team
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:43 pm to
I'll be honest, talent wise I believe our 2017 roster was best, just going from the number of NFL starters on that team. There were 15 just in the QB, RB, and WR rooms.

But all of the rosters from 2015-2020 were absolutely ridiculously stacked.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52808 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:06 pm to
"Team" and "players/talent" are two different things.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20621 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Joel Klatt said our 2019 team was better than 2020


That is debatable, but 2016 was the best Bama team ever.
Posted by The Silverback
Neptune
Member since May 2013
2036 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:13 pm to
Fully aware of that.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:42 pm to
Sure 2019 had a better roster. But 2020 was still a more efficient offense even more then when Tua was healthy. And the defense was much better in 2020
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:42 pm to
If the 2016 defense was moved up 1 year or back 1 year it probably is. Freshman Hurts just wasn't really ready to be an effective QB yet. We were just too one dimensional
Posted by EGO3x
Member since Oct 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:44 pm to
That 2018 Bama team was probably the best team to never win a Natty. Like the 2007 Patriots.

2019 with a healthy Tua had a better offense than 2020 but the defense was probably the worst we've had under Nick tbh.

2020 was a more balanced offense and Mac was incredible that year. Power running game w/ Najee and that elite O line. Passing game was Patriots like with Mac just dicing up defenses. The defense was not "elite" but much better than 2019. Will Anderson as a freshman, Surtain, Barmore were all difference makers.

This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 2:45 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72251 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 2:55 pm to
My favorite team is 2016. No one will ever convince me it wasn’t Saban’s best. But that’s just my opinion.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52808 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Fully aware of that.



oh I know, but Joel isn't apparently.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12619 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

He seems to put out good content


Does he? Fox was the network that said Colorado vs USC was the game of the year
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12231 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 4:24 pm to
Got to remember that Bama lost it's two starting inside LB in preseason camp and had to start two true freshmen ILB.

Fully healthy, no telling how good that team would have been. Before injured, Tua was on pace to throw for more touchdowns then Burrow threw that year.

Posted by PhoSho86
Member since Sep 2019
70 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 5:41 pm to
Alabama 59 Ole Miss 31
Alabama 47 A&M 28
Alabama 47 South Carolina 23

3-0 in the SEC and the defense was already showing signs. And I don't care if it was garbage time or whatever, Ole Miss ran for like 300 yards against Alabama. That 2019 team didn't have a defense up to the standard that wins championships at Alabama.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12231 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 5:56 pm to
Georgia Southern ran for over 300 yards against that 2011 defense.

The 2016 Alabama defense gave up 30 points to Arkansas and 43 points to Ole Miss.

The 2019 defense that we saw had two true freshmen LBs starting.

The two most important players on that 19 team was Tua and Moses and Bama lost them both to injuries.
Posted by PhoSho86
Member since Sep 2019
70 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 6:54 pm to
Mehhh, all of those games featured some sort of extraordinary nonsense. Chad Kelly just basically tossing up prayers for TD's, Georgia Southern with their triple option, Arkansas actually had an excellent offense that year.

None of the teams that were moving the ball on Bama with great success early in 2019 were any good.
Posted by vuvuzela
Oregon
Member since Jun 2010
14663 posts
Posted on 12/15/23 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Georgia Southern ran for over 300 yards against that 2011 defense.



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