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re: Is Tua really going to wait until his senior year to start?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:58 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:58 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
If he doesn't play more after next year I hope he leaves.
I want to see the guy do his thing. He's really good and fun to watch.
I want to see the guy do his thing. He's really good and fun to watch.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 11:15 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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It's ridiculous to think a kid with his talent will sit on the bench for 3 years to play one. It's just not going to happen. I said last year that if Barnett didn't get a fair chance to prove himself, he would leave. Well, he left too early. I am pretty sure he'd had have had that chance had he not left when he did. I think it's readily apparent that Tua Tagovailoa is way better than Blake Barnett. He's getting playing time, and in my opinion he's already proven that his upside is way beyond Jalen Hurts. I think he'll stick around for the off season battle, and I think he'll win that battle.
I'm a pretty strong supporter of calling out Jalen for being a weak passer, and I love the idea of Tua. With that said he isn't taking the job. You think a coach would bench a QB who will possibly go to back to back national titles, sec offensive player of the year, has only one loss, and would be on his third year at that point as a starter?
Get real.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:22 am to InsideTheTide
Possible thought process....
Tua was being recruited during Jake Coker's time here with Hurts coming in.
In the crazy scenario that Fr. Jalen Hurts win the position, he's probably an insanely talented QB that only gets better and better and is gone junior year.
Start in 2019,
NFL 2020
Tua was being recruited during Jake Coker's time here with Hurts coming in.
In the crazy scenario that Fr. Jalen Hurts win the position, he's probably an insanely talented QB that only gets better and better and is gone junior year.
Start in 2019,
NFL 2020
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:09 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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I do think that means we will fail again this season to win the national title.
When we win the title can you ban yourself?
TIA
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:22 am to YStar
I hope I'm wrong and we win in spite of Hurts' shortcomings, but I wouldn't consider anything as silly as banning myself, if for no other reason than I was right last year, and I suppose one would counter the other. By the way, I don't remember you and the other posters coming back to admit I was right and you were wrong. Anyway, I don't expect it from people so ignorant they can't reasonably discuss sports without flipping out or having to resort to ad hominem attacks because they can't rationally support their opinion.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 6:33 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:13 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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if for no other reason than I was right last year, and I suppose one would counter the other. By the way, I don't remember you and the other posters coming back to admit I was right and you were wrong.
Again it is your opinion that you were right. This isn't black and white as much as you want it to be. There are like 3 major arguments for why we lost the natty. Let's go with, it's a team loss and move on. This I'm always right stuff is silly.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:28 am to CrimsonBoz
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This I'm always right stuff is silly.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:42 am to InsideTheTide
Fromm didn't have to wait long.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:07 am to CrimsonBoz
You and I don't always agree, Boz, but I can appreciate the fact that, most of the time, you can reasonably discuss things without ignorantly attacking those with whom you disagree.
Roll Tide.
Oh, and I'm not always right. To think that would indeed be silly. I was right about Barnett transferring, and I was right that the lack of a passing game eventually got us beat, but nobody is always right. For the record, and since I know you're a big Hurts fan, I have already said that I think Hurts has improved this season. I just happen to think Tua has a better upside, more potential to be a great all around qb. It's no huge deal.
Roll Tide.
Oh, and I'm not always right. To think that would indeed be silly. I was right about Barnett transferring, and I was right that the lack of a passing game eventually got us beat, but nobody is always right. For the record, and since I know you're a big Hurts fan, I have already said that I think Hurts has improved this season. I just happen to think Tua has a better upside, more potential to be a great all around qb. It's no huge deal.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:13 am to Huddie Leadbetter
I agree that Injury could always happen. The only reason that Tua wasn't redshirted was incase of injury. Saban isn't going to just take Jalens status away unless Jalen gives it away with bad play. He's been excellent protecting the ball this season and that's really all Saban wants out of a QB. Tua knows he's really good, and I'm sure he's heard the comments experts have made about his potential. I really want him to stick it out, but I don't see him doing it unless he just really loves Alabama.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:15 am to TidalSurge1
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Fromm didn't have to wait long.
And UGA is going to have the same situation with Fromm, Eason, and Fields. Somebody is going to transfer and it will probably be Eason. Blue chip qbs, even if they don't pan out in college like most thought they would, don't tend to sit for 3 years these days. The ncaa is probably going to make it even easier for a player to transfer. There is serious discussion about allowing a player to transfer and play immediately. That may not happen, but I expect that a rule will soon pass to allow them to play the next year.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:19 am to InsideTheTide
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Tua knows he's really good, and I'm sure he's heard the comments experts have made about his potential. I really want him to stick it out, but I don't see him doing it unless he just really loves Alabama
I don't expect he loves Alabama like you and I do. For that matter, I doubt Nick Saban does. Alabama makes it easy for him to win things like conference and national titles, and make LARGE money.
Let's see how it shakes out. I think Tua may be happy by the start of the next season. If not, then yeah, I expect he will go.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:45 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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I was right that the lack of a passing game eventually got us beat
The injuries, the OC fiasco right before the most important game of the year, the 2nd half play calling, the dropped balls, the defensive collapse, the pass protection, and yes the less than stellar passing game all contributed to the loss.
To lay the blame solely or even mostly on Jalen is myopic, ignorant, and just plain wrong.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:05 am to Teague
Something funny? Let me guess you think that I think I’m always right? Lol k
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:05 am to CrimsonTideMD
I'm not even sure you're a for real MD. I know there are some stupid doctors out there, but I don't know any that refer to folks with Downs Syndrome as waterheads. Do your patients know your true character? How about hospital administrators? Would they be happy and supportive about that sort of thing?
What a pathetic p.o.s.
edit: I'm pretty sure you're the same guy that last year called me a Social Justice Warrior because I didn't like the racist cartoon on another forum.
I don't have any inclination to discuss anything with anybody of such dubious character.
What a pathetic p.o.s.
edit: I'm pretty sure you're the same guy that last year called me a Social Justice Warrior because I didn't like the racist cartoon on another forum.
I don't have any inclination to discuss anything with anybody of such dubious character.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:17 am to InsideTheTide
He will not be sticking around and I don't blame him a bit. For the life of me, I can't figure out why he chose to come to Alabama knowing what is in front of him.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:22 am to Huddie Leadbetter
Huddie,
First of all, the clasp is going to break if you keep clutching your pearls in such a PCbro SJWesque manner.
Secondly, I never mentioned Down Syndrome.
Thirdly, waterhead is a reference to hydrocephalus, not Down Syndrome.
Lastly, feel free to use whatever euphemism for retardation that you're comfortable with--I'd hate to offend your delicate sensibilities. My point remains: many of your espoused opinions fall short of even that watermark.
First of all, the clasp is going to break if you keep clutching your pearls in such a PCbro SJWesque manner.
Secondly, I never mentioned Down Syndrome.
Thirdly, waterhead is a reference to hydrocephalus, not Down Syndrome.
Lastly, feel free to use whatever euphemism for retardation that you're comfortable with--I'd hate to offend your delicate sensibilities. My point remains: many of your espoused opinions fall short of even that watermark.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:25 am to I Love Bama
I don't know what will happen.
It's difficult to believe that Jalen will lose his job. I think he does what they ask of him pretty well, and has improved, even if not drastically. Now, we could argue about WHY they don't ask more of him and IF he can give more if/when it is asked of him. But, that's not a conversation I want to have with the majority of the people on this board.
On the other hand, I think (and again, I don't want to argue with most of you about it) that Tua will be a more complete QB, and probably as soon as next year. It's also difficult to believe that Saban won't play the best player.
I don't know what happens. But, I suspect Tua will play a lot next year, even if he isn't the "starter". Will that be enough to keep him around until Jalen leaves? I don't know.
It's difficult to believe that Jalen will lose his job. I think he does what they ask of him pretty well, and has improved, even if not drastically. Now, we could argue about WHY they don't ask more of him and IF he can give more if/when it is asked of him. But, that's not a conversation I want to have with the majority of the people on this board.
On the other hand, I think (and again, I don't want to argue with most of you about it) that Tua will be a more complete QB, and probably as soon as next year. It's also difficult to believe that Saban won't play the best player.
I don't know what happens. But, I suspect Tua will play a lot next year, even if he isn't the "starter". Will that be enough to keep him around until Jalen leaves? I don't know.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:30 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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I'm pretty sure you're the same guy that last year called me a Social Justice Warrior
Oh I remember that thread. Pretty sure that was a few guys from Woolly. But I completely agree bc you're definitely a snowflake.
with your sensitive feelings and toddler's grasp of football, maybe you'd be better serve on a huffington post forum, southern living, or some such site.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:48 am to CrimsonTideMD
I know this isn't popular, but I still don't understand why 2 QB's can't have significant roles on a team. Steve Spurrier was the master of this at Florida for years and years. Urban did it as well with Leak/Tebow and there are other examples out there as well. Why couldn't Tua with his more accurate passing become our 2-minute QB? Why couldn't we give him a drive each half? Just make it a part of the game-plan. We play multiple players at almost every position, I don't see why we can't develop a role for both of them.
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