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re: Interesting twist of events at the qb position...
Posted on 4/17/16 at 11:13 am to remaster916
Posted on 4/17/16 at 11:13 am to remaster916
My guess is that Hurts starts a few games into the season.
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Posted on 4/17/16 at 11:46 am to Funky Tide 8
I was hoping we would get to see Hurts on first team for a little while to see how he'd respond to our defense.
Of course, this type of scrimmage limits one of his greatest assets, his ability to elude pressure. I am guessing that many of the "tackles" would have been avoided yesterday if it were a live game. I also wish that we would have done an air raid offense for spring game just to see more of the qbs passing abilities (or lack there of)
Looking at our schedule, Ole Miss, Arkansas, UT, and LSU are probably the only teams that have better first unit defense than our second unit defense.
Of course, this type of scrimmage limits one of his greatest assets, his ability to elude pressure. I am guessing that many of the "tackles" would have been avoided yesterday if it were a live game. I also wish that we would have done an air raid offense for spring game just to see more of the qbs passing abilities (or lack there of)
Looking at our schedule, Ole Miss, Arkansas, UT, and LSU are probably the only teams that have better first unit defense than our second unit defense.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 12:21 pm to mrbroker
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but with this logic we have won 4 natties. How can you argue with the process.
Because the results of a single split squad scrimmage is a 100% true and accurate representation of both team and individual abilities. You didn't know that already?
Posted on 4/17/16 at 1:07 pm to Funky Tide 8
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My guess is that Hurts starts a few games into the season.
And I bet he gets redshirted never sees the field.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 1:49 pm to Funky Tide 8
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These are all really good points, but I have a different feeling about Hurts for some reason. I think he is going to be a Deshaun Watson type talent.
I think he red shirts this year but he reminds me a lot of Russell Wilson.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 1:49 pm to JustGetItRight
^ Yeah maybe but that will only be another example of the cluster frick that is Bama QB situation.
What the phuck is boring bateman gonna do that Hurts cant do ? Hand the ball off, and make five yard check down passes ?
Hurts can do anything boring bateman can do and then some. If we're going to be limited at QB at least lets be limited with the ability to run.
What the phuck is boring bateman gonna do that Hurts cant do ? Hand the ball off, and make five yard check down passes ?
Hurts can do anything boring bateman can do and then some. If we're going to be limited at QB at least lets be limited with the ability to run.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 3:50 pm to PowHound
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What the phuck is boring bateman gonna do that Hurts cant do ? Hand the ball off, and make five yard check down passes
It has more to do with all the things the QB is responsible for pre-snap - the mental side. That takes most QBs more than a few months to master. Even if JH is doing everything right post-snap, odds are he lags behind the vets in the pre-snap/management area.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 4:58 pm to PowHound
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At a couple different boards I've seen some people say they like BB the best, but I'm lost how they arrived at that conclusion.
I have been very critical of Barnett, but he has his good moments for sure. Kirk Herbstreit touched on this, about how Blake Barnett will look great and in command one play then the next he is a disaster. AT his best Barnett is as good as anyone, and I saw it yesterday. He played better than I thought he would. He just needs to get that whole consistency thing down.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 5:21 pm to PowHound
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^ Yeah maybe but that will only be another example of the cluster frick that is Bama QB situation.
You can't be serious.
That 'clusterfrick' has won 4 national titles in 7 years and is a couple of plays short of having played for the last 5 in a row.
You might want to consider the possibility that Saban and company have a REALLY good idea about how to pick a championship QB.
There is no QB cluster at Alabama. If you want to see a QB cluster, the appropriate place to look would be Lee county.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 7:42 pm to chattabama
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Looking at our schedule, Ole Miss, Arkansas, UT, and LSU are probably the only teams that have better first unit defense than our second unit defense.
That is very homerish and just not true. That theme is being used to justify peoples opinion of Hurts and the fact He didn't have to face the 1st string defense which is a lot better than the 2nd.
MSU, Auburn, and TAMU all have very good players on their first team defense. Some that would start at Bama. Only Kentucky 1st team would match up to Bama's 2nd team.
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USCw have a very talented team. Their roster is loaded with talent. Doesn't have nearly the amount of depth as Bama but they're talented.
I'm not saying Hurts isn't good or that he isn't the best QB on the team. That will be found out later. The Spring game isnt close to a real SEC game when it counts, in a packed stadium, with the pressure of the season and etc.
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I also wish that we would have done an air raid offense for spring game just to see more of the qbs passing abilities (or lack there of)
Why in the world would the coaches do that when it's not close to the real style of offense run. The purpose of the spring game is to give the fans a look at the team and for them to "practice" the system the team runs in the fall. Why waste time on something that would have no bearing on the improvement of the teams preparation for the fall.
Posted on 4/17/16 at 9:58 pm to JustGetItRight
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You can't be serious.
Yeah I'm serious as hayul.
Bama puts DL, OL, ILB, OLB, RB, CB, S, and WR's in the NFL as frequently as any team in college ball if not more so.
If the standard youre trying to meet is "lee county" then yeah were doing great, but if your standard is to identify future nfl talent, and have them kick arse at the college level then we have had, and continue to have a cluster phuck.
I'm tired of watching QB's that the entire gameplan is centered around the fact that the QB is "limited."
I know, I know... Bama keeps winning titles with a game manager QB that will never play in the NFL, and thats great and all, but what if...
What if Bama had a D.Watson ? Would that not be fun ? Are we not allowed to ever have a bad-arse QB ?
Can we identify and groom a 1st round nfl QB ?
Bama has the absolute best and deepest WR core in the history of the program... would it not be nice to have a QB that could get it to all of them ?
Look CNS & company have done an amazing job with what they have had relative to QB's I'm not denying that at talllll. Greg did a good job, AJ did an amazing job, Blake was aight, Coker came through when it mattered, and we've won a lot of trophies but...
what would this team be capable of if there was a 1st round QB at the helm for a few years ? Its just that it hasnt happened in my lifetime, and I fell like I've been pretty damn patient but enough is enough... I'm ready for Bama to have the envy of the league at QB.
What would the score of the Bama vs Clemson game have been if Bama had Watson and Clemson had Coker ?
Posted on 4/17/16 at 10:00 pm to Wranglerinbama
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MSU, Auburn, and TAMU all have very good players on their first team defense. Some that would start at Bama.
And guys like Rashaan Evans, Kendall Sheffield, and Tony Brown would be starting at all three of those teams. A couple of good players does not make a good defense.
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Why in the world would the coaches do that when it's not close to the real style of offense run. The purpose of the spring game is to give the fans a look at the team and for them to "practice" the system the team runs in the fall. Why waste time on something that would have no bearing on the improvement of the teams preparation for the fall.
I don't know. Maybe having QBs who haven't seen a lot of game action throw more passes? What do you think is more difficult to teach to a QB: hand off to Damien Harris/Bo Scar or throwing the deep ball?
Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:00 am to mrbroker
I'm not arguing with the process. My iPad froze up and my wall,of text failed to post. Family and church happened, and now I am back.
I'm 100% with the Process. Saban and the coaches try to win every game. Of the last seven years, they are 2/3 with the "young" QB, AJ, and 2/4 with others. And AJhad been on campus two years.
I respect Stumps right to wishful thinking. But I quit 2nd guessing Saban a long time ago.
My money is on Bateman, BTW.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:17 am to PBD4BAMA
He looked really solid at A-Day. Had a few times where he would stare down the receiver and throw into double coverage, but overall, a solid performance.
God I would have loved to have seen his stats if the black jersey wasn't there. Mind you I didn't watch half the game, but usually when he rolled out, he looked like he could take off.
God I would have loved to have seen his stats if the black jersey wasn't there. Mind you I didn't watch half the game, but usually when he rolled out, he looked like he could take off.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 7:20 am to Gary Busey
OT, but Derek Kief looked really good.
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