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re: Henry STILL at #2 RB, ahead of Drake
Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:55 pm to FairhopeTider
Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:55 pm to FairhopeTider
I believe there were reports before the season that Drake had ball security issues. We never heard anything about that from TJ, but he had a few this year. I think the difference is Saban sees TJ's as just fumbles that happened, and sees Drake's as "We knew this would happen".
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Posted on 12/24/13 at 3:32 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Yeah people keep asking the question but it's really not that big of a mystery. We were playing with the lead in the 2nd half. Odds were that if we didn't turn the ball over we were going to win. Better chance of not turning it over with TJ. Sometimes you play the odds and still lose.
I like Drake a lot and would love to see him get the ball more but it's not difficult to figure out what happened in the IB. Plus, I think it was Mag that pointed out that we were backed up on our own 1 at least once when KD was due to get a series. They probably just don't quite trust him enough to put him in when there's that much at stake. It's a very risk averse mindset but that's the way most coaches think.
I like Drake a lot and would love to see him get the ball more but it's not difficult to figure out what happened in the IB. Plus, I think it was Mag that pointed out that we were backed up on our own 1 at least once when KD was due to get a series. They probably just don't quite trust him enough to put him in when there's that much at stake. It's a very risk averse mindset but that's the way most coaches think.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 3:42 pm to sarc
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It's a very risk averse mindset
I submit that running two straight downs into the heart of the AU defense is just a risky..so is kicking a 60 yard FG with nobody to defend the back man....but I guess that's why I don't have Jimmy Sexton representing me.
But yeah, the obvious reason for Drake has to be turnovers.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:18 pm to FairhopeTider
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But yeah, the obvious reason for Drake has to be turnovers.
Yes but there is more to the story...at least from what I was told. Granted the source is not one that has a history of giving me great insight but the story at least made sense. Drake got his ribs banged up pretty good in the first half. He kept playing on special teams wanting to prove he was able to keep going. The combination of previous fumble issue along with very sore ribs made CNS concerned about what would happen to the ball if he got another hit in the ribs. He did not trust Drake to hold onto the ball with a rib shot.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:28 pm to sarc
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Yeah people keep asking the question but it's really not that big of a mystery. We were playing with the lead in the 2nd half.
A 7 point lead until AU's first drive in the 2nd half, then it was tied. Gimme a break.
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like Drake a lot and would love to see him get the ball more but it's not difficult to figure out what happened in the IB.
Actually it is. We were cruising offensively in the first half with both RBs getting the ball. We dont put Drake back there once in the second half, and we only score a cool 7 points, and that was on a crazy 99 yard TD pass.
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Drake got his ribs banged up pretty good in the first half. He kept playing on special teams wanting to prove he was able to keep going. The combination of previous fumble issue along with very sore ribs made CNS concerned about what would happen to the ball if he got another hit in the ribs. He did not trust Drake to hold onto the ball with a rib shot.
Now this I can believe.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:30 pm to T Rey WI
I don't believe the banged up ribs story. He ran for like 10 yards and was pulled out so Yeldon could finish the drive and score from a short way out.
I heard he got mouthy with a coach and due to the high intense situation got benched. If this is true it is probably because he was pissed he got yanked after doing so well. Who wouldn't be?
I heard he got mouthy with a coach and due to the high intense situation got benched. If this is true it is probably because he was pissed he got yanked after doing so well. Who wouldn't be?
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:33 pm to YStar
I can believe that too. I refuse to believe that our coaches didnt put him solely because he fumbled earlier in the season.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:03 pm to YStar
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I heard he got mouthy with a coach and due to the high intense situation got benched. If this is true it is probably because he was pissed he got yanked after doing so well. Who wouldn't be?
Probably, but I'm willing to bet the only two people who are allowed to talk back to a coach would be AJ and CJ, and even then it better be respectful. Hopefully that wasn't the case with Drake, who knows what it was? Doesn't matter at this point. If Yeldon couldn't get a yard, neither could he.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:24 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Come on man, let's be realistic. If you've ever played football at any kind of higher level you know emotion runs high. This idea players are children and coaches are drill Sargent's is outdated. If Drake was talking crazy then him be benched would be warranted but being vocal isn't a sin man.
I would be pissed too if I did all that work for that first TD and they pulled me out for Yeldon. I can't even knock him if that was the case. If anything it was bad management from the coaches because not having him ended up hurting us.
I would be pissed too if I did all that work for that first TD and they pulled me out for Yeldon. I can't even knock him if that was the case. If anything it was bad management from the coaches because not having him ended up hurting us.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:42 pm to YStar
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Come on man, let's be realistic. If you've ever played football at any kind of higher level
Highest level I played was HS.
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If Drake was talking crazy then him be benched would be warranted but being vocal isn't a sin man.
Of course not. But "getting mouthy" sounds more like "C'mon man wtf you doin put me in the fricking game" more than "Coach, I need to be in there I'm running hard right now!", at least to me, and that is just how I interpreted it.
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I would be pissed too if I did all that work for that first TD and they pulled me out for Yeldon.
We've done it for a while now. In 2011 at times Lacy would be in and get us to the RZ and Trent would come in to get the TD. Same in 2010 and 2009 with Trent on drives that Mark would finish. That is how it should be. Respect the guy in front of you, he gets the fame. When your time comes, then you can do the same.
I agree though, should have seen more of Drake.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:27 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Gimme a break.
Hey man. Believe whatever you want to believe. If he was hurt or had mouthed off to a coach, I don't think he would've been out there on ST's as he's never been a stand-out in that regard anyway. Last year, CNS was asked why Drake didn't play more despite running the ball really well when he did. CNS said there's more to being a RB than running the ball.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:50 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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In 2011 at times Lacy would be in and get us to the RZ and Trent would come in to get the TD.
Lacy got pissed at Penn State when he took us to the goal line and he was taken out. IMO, he was justified. It doesn't matter who the man is, if you do the work, you should get the glory.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:01 pm to FairhopeTider
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Lacy got pissed at Penn State when he took us to the goal line and he was taken out. IMO, he was justified. It doesn't matter who the man is, if you do the work, you should get the glory.
Eh, I disagree. I've always believe in paying your dues to the guy above you. Just me though.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:06 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Eh, I disagree. I've always believe in paying your dues to the guy above you. Just me though.
It's not like Trent was some Senior while Eddie was a freshman way down the roster. They were the same age.
Posted on 12/25/13 at 7:01 am to FairhopeTider
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It's not like Trent was some Senior while Eddie was a freshman way down the roster. They were the same age.
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guy above you
Merry Christmas
Posted on 12/25/13 at 7:14 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Eh, I disagree. I've always believe in paying your dues to the guy above you. Just me though.
This is contradictory because Drake is the older classman.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 2:19 pm to alabamabuckeye
Bump. Same thing posted in today's practice report. Henry is second behind Yeldon and ahead of Drake.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 2:28 pm to YStar
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This is contradictory because Drake is the older classman.
Like I said before, I don't mean older, I mean above you on the depth chart.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 2:36 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
A replay of the A&M game was on earlier, and damn Drake is good. If he got the carries, there is no doubt in my mind that he could be the best back in the SEC.
Posted on 12/28/13 at 3:24 pm to chattabama
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Same thing posted in today's practice report. Henry is second behind Yeldon and ahead of Drake.
Either the staff has lost confidence in Drake's ability to hold onto the ball, or Henry has just went full-on beastmode since the middle of the season.
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