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Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:10 pm
Hey guys im not trying to bash Coker and I have been in this guys corner and I will continue to be. However, why the heck is this guy not getting a shot Cornwell. Wasn't he like 2nd string in spring camp. I heard a rumor that he was upset with Blake getting so many snaps but damn this guy was the 3rd best pro-style QB in the 2014 class. If Kiffin is such a great QB coach shouldn't he be at least serviceable to play and read defenses and shouldn't we play a guy that will be with us for another 4 years compared to a guy that is going to be gone after this year. I mean this guy is an Elite 11 QB.
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/06/alabama_commit_david_cornwell.html
https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/06/alabama_commit_david_cornwell.html
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:11 pm to oneusairman
Sean White was Elite 11 MVP and Dilfer said he's a program changer. How'd that work out?
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:19 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
I'd hardly place all the blame for Auburn's offense on the QB play.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:21 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Sean White was Elite 11 MVP and Dilfer said he's a program changer. How'd that work out?
You going to bury Sean White after one start?
I'd personally love to see what Cornwell and Barnett would do in a game situation like this past Saturday. Don't see it happening though.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:21 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Sean White was Elite 11 MVP and Dilfer said he's a program changer. How'd that work out?
Dude poor comparison this kid is a red-shirt freshmen, let him play a year or two first. I mean the dudes first game was last week. It is to early to say how good he will be.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:25 pm to oneusairman
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However, why the heck is this guy not getting a shot Cornwell.
I'd guess because he isn't as good as the others two that are playing.
Guys, our coaches are going to play the players that they think gives Alabama the best chance to win the game. There is no ulterior motive. We're talking about professionals that have done this for a long time and watch these kids every day. The players that are the best at executing their job will play.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:32 pm to oneusairman
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Dude poor comparison this kid is a red-shirt freshmen, let him play a year or two first. I mean the dudes first game was last week. It is to early to say how good he will be.
the point is that being an Elite 11 QB doesnt mean he is ready to play right now.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:35 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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the point is that being an Elite 11 QB doesnt mean he is ready to play right now
I got your point but it way to early to judge how good Sean White will be. Honestly, I don't think he did that bad for his first game.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Dude we all know how Saban puts an emphasis on seniority. I venture to say that in 2010 AJ McCarron was ahead of Greg that year but he still played Greg through out the season. Saban has never given a freshman meaningful snaps in games. Also this kid was apparently good enough to be pushing for the starting job in Spring. He was listed as 2nd String during that time.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:41 pm to oneusairman
It seems to me like Saban gave Cornwell all the chances in the world to win the QB battle.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 4:45 pm to Funky Tide 8
Anyway my point is what do you lose. If we are going to get average to below average QB play, why not go with the youth and build on the future. Again Coker will not be here next year. If the best we are going to get is a couple of good throws a game from a QB that has a slow release and doesn't read defenses, why not start the freshmen and allow them to learn and develop. Although might be to late now as that should have been done from the start of this season. At this point in the schedule for the next game your going to need Coker to start since he has the most experience.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:04 pm to oneusairman
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Dude we all know how Saban puts an emphasis on seniority
That's how you perceive it. More talented doesn't always mean better. Like I said, the guy that's best at executing the job he's asked to do will play. Regardless of talent or age. It's about executing your job. Older guys are typically better at that
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Saban has never given a freshman meaningful snaps in games
Lol get real dude.
Rolando McClain
Dont'a Hightower
Mark Ingram
Julio Jones
Dee Milliner
CJ Mosley
Julio Jones
Calvin Ridley
Trent Richardson
Cam Robinson
Cyrus Koundjio
Minkah Fitzpatrick
Cyrus Jones
Should I keep going? That's off the top of my head but I'm sure I can think of more
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:09 pm to oneusairman
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Anyway my point is what do you lose
The game is what you lose!
Our coaches are paid to win football games. They're going to play the guys that they think give them the best chance to do that--hence starting Bateman against Ole Miss, they thought going in that he was our best chance to win. When it became evident that Cooper was scared to keep the football on the read option, he got yanked, since the game plan and idea was geared towards him being a running threat.
The coaches play the players that give us he best chance to win the game in their opinions. This "play for the future" garbage is so far out of touch with reality that it blows my mind. That's not their job, to concede victories in hopes that a kid will get better by taking lumps. Sending a kid out to frick up over and over before he is ready isn't really the best way to build his confidence for the future either.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:28 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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This "play for the future" garbage is so far out of touch with reality that it blows my mind
Why? I don't know about in this situation, but in any situation if the play between someone with no chance of being back next year is no better than the play of someone with a chance to be back next year, play the guy who can come back next year so you have more experience ready for next season.
If we lose again and fall out of playoff contention I'm all for Coker never playing another snap because if you're not gonna win the national title then the season is already a massive failure. Settling for anything less isn't how it is done around here. Even Bear Bryant said he expects nothing less than a National Championship. JMO.
But as I said, I don't know that there is a younger QB to play over Coker while we're still in contention because I'm not sure any of those guys can do better than him.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 6:57 pm to oneusairman
I hate to be that guy...but i've just got to say it lol. My friend works with the UA athletic program. he is always on the sidelines at every game and is friends with a ton of the players. feel free to not believe this because I'm not sure if I would trust some random person on the internet either but this is what he told me...
My friend said that most people/staff thought Cornwell was better than any option we had (I'm assuming Barnett just because of his age/experience at this point). Apparently he got really frustrated in practice over the summer and threw a football as hard as he could at Kiffin (
). After that was when the wheels fell off for him. I do remember just at the drop of a hat he randomly fell to the back of all the depth charts and seemingly was out of the qb race overnight. He didn't really say anything more than that but just reading between the lines I guess they wouldn't trust him to keep his cool during a game? Maturity issues I suppose. Thats a total assumption by me so idk.
I remember reading rumors on here actually that he exposed himself at a bar or something as well? He never said anything about that to me though. I just remember reading a thread on here about that. No clue about the validity.
So yeah. That's what I've heard. I 100% believe it. He has told me things that ended up being true before. Feel free to ignore this post because I have no way of verifying it and I'd be skeptical myself if I read that just thought I should share.
My friend said that most people/staff thought Cornwell was better than any option we had (I'm assuming Barnett just because of his age/experience at this point). Apparently he got really frustrated in practice over the summer and threw a football as hard as he could at Kiffin (
). After that was when the wheels fell off for him. I do remember just at the drop of a hat he randomly fell to the back of all the depth charts and seemingly was out of the qb race overnight. He didn't really say anything more than that but just reading between the lines I guess they wouldn't trust him to keep his cool during a game? Maturity issues I suppose. Thats a total assumption by me so idk. I remember reading rumors on here actually that he exposed himself at a bar or something as well? He never said anything about that to me though. I just remember reading a thread on here about that. No clue about the validity.
So yeah. That's what I've heard. I 100% believe it. He has told me things that ended up being true before. Feel free to ignore this post because I have no way of verifying it and I'd be skeptical myself if I read that just thought I should share.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:02 pm to hambone213
so what does your friend say about the Kiffen rumor
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:08 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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no better than the play of someone with a chance to be back
This is a completely different animal
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:19 pm to mrbroker
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so what does your friend say about the Kiffen rumor
I only talked to him for a few minutes the other day when I ran into him on the quad but he wouldn't really say anything about it. Whether that be because he doesn't know anything or just because they are trying to keep it in-house i'm not sure. I wish I knew man.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:29 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Should I keep going? That's off the top of my head but I'm sure I can think of more
I'm pretty sure TJ and Amari got some decent playing time their freshman year.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 7:50 pm to Carolina Tide
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Amari got some decent playing time their freshman year.
Nah, that scrub only had 1000 yards his freshman year.
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