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Posted on 7/29/17 at 10:00 pm to UhOhOreo
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It's lower than .08. .08 just means they don't have to find anymore cause to charge you with it because you're assumed to be impaired at that point. A .04 can get a DUI.
You can get a DUI with nothing at all but the officer saying you refused to consent to a breathalyzer. Doesn't make it right.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 6:40 am to ReauxlTide222
then please enlighten me as it is this close to fall camp opening up.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 7:35 am to mrbroker
Mr broker, I'm sure you was a real party animal and still managed to have your fun with no mistakes on top of that. You need to write a book about it and sell it to our new recruits. Thank you very much.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:38 am to mrbroker
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then please enlighten me as it is this close to fall camp opening up.
He will have many hours of community service from the team on top of the county. Hours of counseling on drugs and alcohol. Counseling on being a responsible adult.
Physically he will have all of fall camp to work extra as a punishment.
You see, a 1 game suspension (4hrs) has good optics for fans and media. CNS doesn't care about either. His punishment is to make sure that young man learns from this.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:00 am to Bamadoc
DUI is a business in and of itself. The low thresholds are there to get more people in the payer bracket. Once a person is arrested for DUI, everybody from that point forward gets paid. Lawyers get paid, judges get paid, driving school gets paid, insurance companies get more money. Under the guise of "saving lives". Yet, after they pay everybody and jump thru all the hoops, they get their license to drive back. Why? So they can do it all over again and the business of DUI chugs right along. If they were actually serious about stopping dui, there would never be a drivers license handed back to them. But then, most of these folks wouldn't be getting paid, would they. A rearrest for DUI would be mandatory 1 year in jail. Oh and yes, i had 2 dui's back in the early '80s, within 2 a week span. just my thoughts on it.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:23 pm to crimsontater
so you think it is a game to make money for all involved except the driver?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:44 pm to crimsontater
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DUI is a business in and of itself.
I see people say this all the time as if the entire system isn't that way. The police, magistrates, judges ect handle crime in ways to make them money as opposed to helping society deal with problems.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:46 pm to mrbroker
Broker you can not win with this group. If the kid is projected to be a starter peeps are more worried about how much time he will miss and downplay what he did as not that serious. If the kid is a bench player cut the cord and send him packing.
The reality of it is especially with options for a ride no reason to chance and especially with a senior on the team that knows the drill. Just stupid unlike an freshman comin out of high school. I would hope Saban no matter what he decides imposes a harsher punishment for a senior that is expected to lead the team whether in practice community service or suspension.
And before some of you self righteous party animals jump on me about he is young, mistakes happen or I did not do this or that so I do not understand I have been drunk laid and thrown in jail on 6 different continents, not sure it would wise to any of that in Antarctica but have yet to go there, but yes I know when we are young we do stupid things but it does not mean we should not be held accountable.
The reality of it is especially with options for a ride no reason to chance and especially with a senior on the team that knows the drill. Just stupid unlike an freshman comin out of high school. I would hope Saban no matter what he decides imposes a harsher punishment for a senior that is expected to lead the team whether in practice community service or suspension.
And before some of you self righteous party animals jump on me about he is young, mistakes happen or I did not do this or that so I do not understand I have been drunk laid and thrown in jail on 6 different continents, not sure it would wise to any of that in Antarctica but have yet to go there, but yes I know when we are young we do stupid things but it does not mean we should not be held accountable.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 2:59 pm to Fells
Seriously, go ask an inmate about the clothes they wear. Outside Federal Penitentiaries I know for a fact it's "designer" clothing which has it's manufacturing rights bid on. Those trashy boots worth about $15 at a Walmart? That's about $150 to an inmate. Sending an Email or making a call? Easily rack up a dollar per email or minute.
System is nothing but punitive action and $$$.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:02 am to TideWarrior
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The reality of it is especially with options for a ride no reason to chance and especially with a senior on the team that knows the drill.
On the flip side, if Hand has had no other serious disciplinary problems at UA (and frankly, I don't sweat that stuff anymore so I honestly don't know)then he should get a little credit for that. Most college students drink and...party. If they haven't been caught doing it, the good for them.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:34 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
I agree but still should be held accountable. My comment regarding the senior thing is it like with my kids. My daughter is almost nine and she has four younger brothers but even if she had never gotten to trouble I would expect more from her because she is older and knows the drill which is no different with a senior who has been in the program for a while. These guys will have fun and I understand that but the longer they are at the college they should be more responsible as they have seen many get in trouble.
It also irritates me at times when some posters will downplay the situation based on their ability to contribute to the program.
It also irritates me at times when some posters will downplay the situation based on their ability to contribute to the program.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:35 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
So Hand was not driving the car and just sleeping in the car and got a DUI. He will be playing against FSU.
I may be wrong, but doesn't the D in DUI stand for driving?
I may be wrong, but doesn't the D in DUI stand for driving?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 3:43 pm to remaster916
If the keys are in the vehicle you will still get popped for a DUI. The keys would need to be out of and not in sight of the vehicle to avoid a DUI and even then they could hit you with Publix Intoxication (lesser charge obviously).
Posted on 7/31/17 at 5:20 pm to Culverhouse13
Section 32-5A-191
Driving while under influence of alcohol, controlled substances, etc.
(a) A person shall not drive or be in actual physical control of any vehicle while:...
Driving while under influence of alcohol, controlled substances, etc.
(a) A person shall not drive or be in actual physical control of any vehicle while:...
Posted on 7/31/17 at 6:35 pm to Five0
quote:how can you be in control of a car if it's not in gear and you are not operating the controls, because to you are asleep
A person shall not drive or be in actual physical control of any vehicle while:...
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:14 pm to narddogg81
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how can you be in control of a car if it's not in gear and you are not operating the controls, because to you are asleep
The simple answer is that's the law. It doesn't take much to wake up and place the running car in gear.
On the flip side, regular folk with otherwise clean records get this pleaded down to public intox all the time. Hand will almost certainly be allowed to do the same thing.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 8:57 pm to JustGetItRight
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regular folk with otherwise clean records get this pleaded down to public intox
Screw that. I would get you into a deferred program and get it off your record completely. Lawyer up.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:14 pm to Five0
This is a dumb law. It's one thing to be passed out in the middle of the road, but to just go to sleep in a parking lot? Sure, he could've gotten a ride. But he didn't act irresponsibly by sleeping in his car. Quite the opposite, actually. The idea that it "doesn't take much" to put the car in gear isn't very sound logic, either. It doesn't take much to do a lot of illegal things, that doesn't mean you should be arrested before you do those things.
I was disappointed initially when I heard about the arrest and felt he'd probably be out for at least the FSU game, and deservedly so. Obviously these new revelations change my opinion. This is stupid. He shouldn't miss any time and I am pretty sure he won't. This just isn't a big deal.
I was disappointed initially when I heard about the arrest and felt he'd probably be out for at least the FSU game, and deservedly so. Obviously these new revelations change my opinion. This is stupid. He shouldn't miss any time and I am pretty sure he won't. This just isn't a big deal.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/31/17 at 9:54 pm to remaster916
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So Hand was not driving the car and just sleeping in the car and got a DUI.
seriously? That's ridiculous. Where are you seeing this? 
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