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Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:03 pm to
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Some "insider" on BOL is claiming Saban wants Napier. Napier, Locksley, or Godsey. Bunch of meh candidates.

That sucks
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:15 pm to
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Some "insider" on BOL is claiming Saban wants Napier. Napier, Locksley, or Godsey. Bunch of meh candidates.



Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:49 pm to
Agreed. Please no.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:53 pm to
I'm intrigued by Godsey. But much rather have Napier back among those choices.
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:56 pm to
Id rather have Napier over Godsey or Locksley. But we need to use that 10th spot on a QB coach.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:07 pm to
Napier over a former NFL coordinator? Why?

Granted, Godsey didn't have much success with the Texans offense. Still, probably hardly anybody else would have either with Osweiler as the QB. It's all about your QB in the NFL right now.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:09 pm to
If I had to chose out of those 3, it would be Napier.
Posted by pmacattack
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:22 pm to
Osweiler is terrible. so glad my Broncos didnt sign him for big money
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:14 am to

5-star DE on why Alabama is in good shape, 5-star LB to visit and how Tide played part in prospect’s best day ever

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Welcome to SEC Country’s daily Roll Tide-ings, a rundown of everything happening in Alabama Crimson Tide recruiting, with Chris Kirschner. Today, we discuss the latest with 5-star DE KJ Henry, Mobile DE Andres Fox and 5-star LB Teradja Mitchell.

Alabama in good shape with 5-star DE 


We’ve already written about this in the days after 2017 National Signing Day, but getting several quality defensive linemen in the Class of 2018 is arguably the Crimson Tide’s biggest priority in this recruiting cycle — just like how it was in this past class.

One of the names on the top of Alabama’s wish list is the nation’s No. 2 defensive end, 5-star prospect KJ Henry from West Forsyth High School (Clemmons, N.C.).

Outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi has positioned the Crimson Tide to be in the race for Henry all the way up until he makes his college decision.

“I talk to coach Lupoi a lot. He’s a great guy,” Henry told SEC Country in an interview last month. “He’s really funny to be around. Just being on their leaderboard as one of their top prospects and being wanted by such a great school is a really good feeling.”

The Tide communicate with Henry at least once every week, and that’s perfectly OK to Henry. Some prospects need coaches checking in on them every day, but Henry is fine with the amount the staff talks to him. He said Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State are three teams that will likely be in the race until the end.

“As long as they stay on the same road, they should stay in pretty good shape,” Henry said. “They talk to me once or twice every week. As long as they keep on doing that, they’ll be in good shape with me.”

All three of these schools have been extremely successful in recent years, but that’s not going to determine why he’ll choose a school.

“People ask me if a team losing a game weighs on my decision and I always tell them, ‘No,'” Henry said. “In this aspect, I guess it would be no as well. It’s a selfish business, ultimately. I need to look out for myself. I just want to see how schools are going to develop me as a player.”

The 6-foot-6, 217-pound prospect has noticed Alabama’s ability to churn out NFL prospects every single year. He mentioned how Jonathan Allen and Dalvin Tomlinson are expected to be selected early in the draft. That matters to him.

It’s one of the biggest reasons why the Crimson Tide, Buckeyes and Tigers are all in good shape to land Henry. Those three schools have shown that not only do they win on a consistent basis, but they also produce prospects every year.

“That’s definitely one of the biggest factors — being successful in helping players get to the league,” Henry said. “They’re teams that have a lot of really good players. To have them just turn out good players every single year is a good look for them, and it’s all about how they’re winning and how they’re going to continue to keep winning.”

Expect Henry to visit Tuscaloosa this spring or summer.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:21 am to
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5-star LB to visit Alabama

In case you missed Wednesday’s edition of Roll Tide-ings, we talked about the nation’s No. 1 inside linebacker, Teradja Mitchell. I mentioned how Mitchell hasn’t visited Tuscaloosa yet but was hoping to change that. On Wednesday night, we got that answer.

Teradja Mitchell is one of Alabama’s most important targets in the Class of 2018. (Chris Kirschner/SEC Country)

Mitchell, a 5-star prospect from Bishop Sullivan High School (Virginia Beach, Va.), announced that he will visit Alabama during the weekend of Feb. 25, which is when the Crimson Tide will have one of their junior day events.

Mitchell has been a longtime lean to Florida State, but Alabama will have its chance to change that if he follows through with the visit.

The 6-foot-2, 232-pound prospect told SEC Country that he’s been in contact with Lupoi and defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt over the past few weeks.

“It’s a school I am definitely interested in, and over the past few weeks, I’ve been developing a higher interest in them after talking to them more,” Mitchell said. “I’m just excited to continue building a relationship with the coaches and hopefully get a visit in soon.”

Pruitt and Lupoi have been selling Mitchell on becoming another cog in the Alabama machine.

“Come to ‘Bama and keep winning national championships,” Mitchell said of Alabama’s message. “At first, I was just like, ‘Yeah.’ But now I see that they are all about developing players to be top notch.

“That’s one thing I look for in a program — somewhere that can develop me into the best player I can be to help me get to the league.”

Mitchell is planning on making a commitment in either November or December.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:44 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:22 am to
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Alabama plays part in prospect’s best day ever

Feb. 8, 2017, was the best day of Andres Fox’s life.

Fox, a 3-star defensive end from Mobile (Ala.) Christian School, picked up an offer from Alabama on Wednesday. It certainly was a meaningful offer for the in-state prospect.

“It’s the best day of my life,” Fox told SEC Country shortly after being offered by Alabama. “It’s been a dream of mine just watching them growing up, and now I have a chance to play for them.”

The 6-foot-5, 230-pound prospect grew up a Crimson Tide fan and admits that the emotions were running high after Pruitt extended a scholarship offer his way. So, was commitment on his mind as soon as he was presented an opportunity to play for Alabama?

“I just have to talk it over with my family,” Fox said.

It’s as simple as this — if the Crimson Tide want Fox in their Class of 2018, he will be in it.

Fox is rated as the nation’s No. 27 defensive end and No. 21 prospect in the state of Alabama.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:37 am to
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Fox, a 3-star defensive end from Mobile (Ala.) Christian School, picked up an offer from Alabama on Wednesday. It certainly was a meaningful offer for the in-state prospect.


Andres Fox Highlights
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:22 pm to
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With the 2017 recruiting class now safely in our rearview mirror, it's time to focus in on the next crop. To do that, we're bringing you a reset of the Top247 for the class of 2018. This is a list that will begin to change on a weekly basis as we learn more, see more and fully engage in the class of 2018 evaluation process.

In addition to the updated list, here's a cheat sheet that should help get you caught up on a quickly-accelerating 2018 class that's already started with spring camps and events.

The 5-stars

We start slow on the five-star front and build up to a list that will eventually be 32 names long. Earning a five-star grade doesn't guarantee a prospect keeps that fifth star throughout the process but we are careful not to throw that top billing out flippantly. To date, only seven have earned that elite status.

The group is lead by probably the best quarterback we've ever seen on paper in Trevor Lawrence out of Cartersville, Ga. The 6-5 pocket-passer is 42-1 as a starter with two state championships and more than 10,000 passing yards to his credit. He's a Clemson commit and the early face of the class.

Every five-star group has its quarterback but it's always got its edge rushers too and there are two great ones in this class in Xavier Thomas and Micah Parsons. Thomas is a South Carolina native considering South Carolina and Clemson among others while Parsons is an early Penn State commit out of Pennsylvania.

North Carolina native Zamir White has running back traits that would put him in the conversation as the top back in any of the recent loaded years at the position. Texas cornerback Anthony Cook has taken the early lead as the lock-down cornerback of the 2018 cycle, there's a nasty linebacker out of Bishop Gorman named Palaie Gaoteote that will give you nightmares if you watch his film too late in the day and there's an Oklahoma offensive tackle commit in Brey Walker that is all upside at 6-foot-7, 300 pounds.

The position you want to need

Every year there's a position or two that have college-ready talent all over the country. Last cycle it was offensive linemen and running backs. Before that we saw elite defensive tackles crawling all over the country in high school that went on to impact the college game in Year 1 (hello, Dexter Lawrence and Ed Oliver). This year if you've got a hole in your roster, you'd better hope it's at linebacker or defensive back.

Early in the process, linebackers are popping up everywhere. There's the long, rangy Payton Wilson out of North Carolina. There's the between-the-tackles thumper Ayodele Adeoye out of St. Louis, there's the raw, athletic outside linebacker Quay Walker out of south Georgia. And those are just the names blowing up of late.

The blue bloods in this linebacker class include Dallas Gant out of Ohio, Teradja Mitchell out of Virginia and we've already got the aforementioned Gaoteote as a rare five-star inside linebacker.

On the back-end, there's a new name popping up daily too. Guys like Josh Proctor out of Oklahoma, speedster AJ Lytton out of Maryland or recent Ohio State commit Jaiden Woodbey out of California have all been on the scene for a while. Now it's time to start talking about guys like Gurvan Hall out of south Florida, headhunter Demarvion Overshown out of Texas and Mario Goodrich out of Missouri.

The QBs

It's a good crop of quarterbacks in the 2018 class, particularly at the top. Lawrence is the bell cow of the group but Notre Dame commit Phil Jurkovec is right behind him and may have as much or more upside than any arm in the class.

USC commit Matt Corral looks like the elite arm out in California this cycle and he's probably as safe of a bet as there is in the class under center.

If you want to know why the Big Ten is trending up, look no further than the state of Georgia where Ohio State has landed an elite arm in Emory Jones but he'll have to hold off Penn State commit Justin Fields to keep his spot in the Georgia hierarchy.

Out West, Washington commit Jacob Sirmon is a big, strong-armed quarterback that is a first off the bus type while one-time Oregon commit Colson Yankoff may be the sleeper of the class.

Dorian Thompson-Robinson will be a first-year starter at national power Bishop Gorman after playing behind Ohio State signee Tate Martell the past two years but we think he may be just as good as his predecessor.

Setting the pace

Penn State is out of the gates first in 2018 with the nation's No. 1 class early in the process. James Franklin's group has reeled in 10 early commits which leads the nation but it's quality as well as quantity. The Nittany Lions are averaging well over a four-star rating per each recruit and pacing well to compete for the No. 1 class come next February.

Some familiar names are behind Penn State with Florida State, USC and Notre Dame all in the top five. If you follow Miami recruiting in recent years, it's no surprise to see the Hurricanes in the top five early as well but with Mark Richt manning the ship now, perhaps Miami will actually stay there.

The most interesting name on the list is Kansas hanging in the mix with the No. 9 class in the country. Among the 7 early commits for David Beaty's Jayhawks, six came from Louisiana and two were one-time LSU commits. Kansas looks like it has a chance to do something special on the recruiting trail this cycle.

You'll find Ohio State all the way down at No. 10 and Alabama circling the waters at No. 13 but don't get used to it. Those two recruiting powerhouses are just getting warmed up.


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That Yankoff kid is from Idaho and he's legit.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75889 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:25 pm to
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With the 2017 class in the books, 247Sports rolled out its latest update to the Top247 for the 2018 recruiting class.

Here’s a look at how Alabama commitments and in-state prospects were affected with the latest changes to the Top247.

Commits:

Xavier Williams, ATH/WR, Hollywood (Fla.) Chaminade-Madonna Prep –223 to 227

Dameon Pierce, RB, Bainbridge (Ga.) – 126 to NR

Jordan Davis, DE, Memphis (Tenn.) Southwind – NR

Akial Byers, DT, Mississippi Gulf Coast C.C. (Miss.) – Junior college rankings have yet to be released

In-state prospects:


Justyn Ross, WR, Phenix City (Ala.) Central – 113 to 41

Jalyn Armour-Davis, CB, Mobile (Ala.) St. Paul’s Episcopal –127 to 75

Coynis Miller, DT, Birmingham (Ala.) Jackson-Olin – NR to 127

Jack West, QB, Saraland (Ala.) – Stanford commit – 132 to 145

Harold Joiner, ATH, Birmingham (Ala.) Mountain Brook – NR to 170

Seth Williams, WR, Cottondale (Ala.) Bryant – 165 to 175

Andres Fox, DE, Mobile (Ala.) Christian – NR to 224

Myles Mason, S, Pleasant Grove (Ala.) – 215 to NR

Tank Jenkins, OG, Montgomery (Ala.) Park Crossing – 217 to NR


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Holy hell at the Dameon Pierce drop.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75889 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
Updated Top 247

Other targets:

2. Xavier Thomas
3. Zamir White
4. Anthony Cook
5. Palaie Gaoteote
9. Jamaree Salyer
10. Lorenzo Lingard
13. Patrick Surtain
15. Isaac Taylor-Stuart
19. Taron Vincent
28. Kelvin Joseph
31. Josh Jobe
33. Payton Wilson
35. Mark Pope
36. Justin Fields
37. KJ Henry
42. Brenton Cox
46. Dax Hollifield
49. Michael Thompson
50. Teradja Mitchell
53. PJ Mustipher
56. Tyreke Johnson
76. Eyabi Anoma
90. Nik Bonitto
95. Tommy Brown
98. Max Wright

I'm stopping at 100 because I honestly don't know who our top targets are right now.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15186 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:35 pm to
Only explanation forbthat drop is grade issues. That film is undeniable.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75889 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:54 pm to
New 2018 Safety offer out of Texas:

DeMarvion Overshown Highlights

He jumped all the way up to #110 overall in the Top247 today.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75889 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 5:58 pm to
Barton Simmons on why Dameon Pierce dropped:

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He's a good back. He's just not that guy that's a national top100 type. High 3-star is right for him. Can put up big numbers and can disappear.




Yeah Barton. Nick Saban accepted this kid's commitment during his Junior season and he's a 3-star.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75889 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:01 pm to
Lorenzo Lingard committed to Miami.

Richt is fricking killing it in South Florida right now.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 6:33 pm to
UGA fans are so dumb lol
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