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re: Blake Sims is my favorite QB ever

Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:56 am to
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
971 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:56 am to
I hate to nit-pick, but are we watching the same guy? He's very inconsistent with his throws on swing passes and on across the middle in terms of putting it in the right spot. Some of those slow cross field throws he makes also give me heart attacks as he doesn't really have the arm to make it.

Love the guy's character and poise though!
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:30 pm to
Don't know if you are man, because he was on point yesterday.

- Throw to the middle of the field went right through Ardarius Stewart's hands. Threw it to the only place he could there.

- Two throws perfectly to Coop and Coop just drops them.

- Throw directly to OJ and OJ just drops it.

- Throw directly to DeAndrew White (I think?) on the sideline and he can bring it in.


Blake Sims is by no means perfect, but tell me what QB you know can make the pass then force the receiver to catch the ball too?

He was 16/21 at one point, with OJ drops and a pass interference being part of the attempts.

I know the facts won't stop people from being unrealistic and demanding something even AJ could never do (and we never killed him for it), but I'm still going to lay them out there.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52684 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:32 pm to
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but are we watching the same guy?


I dunno, are we?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:37 pm to
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I don't see any signs of laziness or lack of effort though.


Watch him blocking and you will see tons of it.

I know it is like I'm piling on to him, but I can't say how truly disappointed I am. I have high expectations when it comes to TE's, however he isn't even reaching an average standard.

He drops more than he catches and his effort in blocking is putrid. He is forever getting blown up into the backfield. I'm not expecting him to have perfect technique, step and drive, however is it so damn hard to move your feet and get a good position block?

Want to know why Yeldon got that niggle and fumbled against LSU? Watch the tape and see who isn't blocking... yep OJ.

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The Ole Miss play was a bad decision by Sims/good play by the DB. You can't expect a receiver to jump for/high point the ball when the QB leads him the way Sims did. I know you disagree but I just wanted to get my opinion out there.


I can't disagree more.

Threw the same ball to Coop this past game, the only difference is effort. It was a good throw, forced, but a good throw.

BTW, the only reason why Blake was even in a position to force the ball there against Ole Miss, was OJ's poor performance the play before holding when Blake Sims ran for a first down.

Are we going to make excuses for him there too?

This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:39 pm to
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Threw the same ball to Coop this past game, the only difference is effort. It was a good throw, forced, but a good throw.


No it wasn't. The ball to Coop was ever so slightly overthrown and Coop did a great job high pointing it. If Sims had led Coop the way he did OJ (while throwing it over the wrong shoulder), Coop wouldn't have been able to high point it and it would've likely been picked by the DB coming over.

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Are we going to make excuses for him there too?


No the holding call was a killer. Again, I'm not arguing that OJ has been great this year, but questioning a player's effort isn't something that should be done lightly. I haven't seen evidence of it and I doubt his snap count would actually be increasing week to week if the coaches saw evidence of it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50405 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:33 pm to
He's been a decent QB at home and did a decent job in the last few minutes on the road against LSU. His other games away from BDS worry me if we make it to the seccg or into the playoffs. With the way he plays away from home, we have been fortunate most of the big games this season have been at home. We even lost to an obviously overranked Ole Miss team on the road and he was not playing his best in that game. That game should not have ended up in the L column. Playing at home isn't a possibility after the Iron Bowl and he will need to be more consistent away from BDS at that point. The competition will be above Ole Miss' level if we make it through as SEC champs and we won't have the home field luxury. I'm not sure why anyone would sing his praises yet.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:59 pm to
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SMH, three posters downvoted. 




Fans of Kiffin's Krimson Korner.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12221 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:59 pm to
There is a difference playing a true road game and playing at a neutral site. Any neutral site Bama would go to will have more Bama fans at the game then the other team.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52684 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:16 pm to
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I'm not sure why anyone would sing his praises yet.


Oh shut up.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:19 pm to
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No it wasn't. The ball to Coop was ever so slightly overthrown and Coop did a great job high pointing it.
Are you talking about the ball Cooper caught on the one? If so, that ball was greatly underthrown. Cooper goes in untouched if it was a better throw. He easily had the DB beaten.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:28 pm to
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imjustafatkid


This guy leads us on that drive against LSU, then does it a week later against MSU; in-spite of our receivers letting him down and you find a way to make him our problem.

You will never stop this anti-Blake agenda, will you?

Don't know who is worse between you and the other one. Both of you are tiresome.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:31 pm to
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No it wasn't. The ball to Coop was ever so slightly overthrown and Coop did a great job high pointing it.


Ball was underthrown. Coop slow down, judged the ball correctly and instead of waiting for it to fall into his arms like OJ; he high pointed it.

OJ on the other hand misjudged the ball, slowed down too much, then waited for the ball to come down to him.

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but questioning a player's effort isn't something that should be done lightly.


Well I use to play and have on all levels and I'm questioning his effort.

The least even a receiving TE should do is be able to shift his feet and position block using his big body. OJ can't even do that.

I have pointed out specific plays (Yeldon fumble, holding call, etc) where his effort has been well short. My conscious is clear on this discussion.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:52 pm to
WRT the holding call, if you really want to blame someone, blame Bozeman. He totally whiffed on his block. The free rusher up the middle forced Blake from the pocket. OJ had been in good position until Blake ran outside causing OJ to lose leverage on his block. It was still a bad penalty on OJ but if you have to question anyone's effort on the play it would be Bozeman.

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OJ on the other hand misjudged the ball, slowed down too much, then waited for the ball to come down to him.


I know we'll just go round and round on this, but he didn't slow down. He adjusted for the fact the ball was thrown slightly over the wrong shoulder. Sims puts that ball over the correct shoulder (away from the DB who's coming over) and OJ could've high pointed it.

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Ball was underthrown.


That's what I meant to say
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 4:55 pm
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:06 pm to
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The ball to Coop was ever so slightly overthrown and Coop did a great job high pointing it.


The deep ball? No it wasnt, not by a longshot.

It was underthrown and behind Coop's angle, he slowed down, turned upfield, and had to highpoint it lest it be a INT.

Geez, what do you people see?

For the record, I think Coker's ceiling is higher, but Sims is the better QB. No doubt, he just isnt perfect like some of you seem to think.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 5:09 pm
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Geez, what do you people see?


Read my post immediately above yours. Simple case of misspeaking on my part that had already been pointed out twice.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:14 pm to
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Read my post immediately above yours. Simple case of misspeaking on my part that had already been pointed out twice.


Sorry for continuing to rail on you, but many still see it that way. Blake can do no wrong because he played very well for 4 minutes at the end of 2 games. When in reality we should have never been in that position. A lot of which had to do with him.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:15 pm to
Sims also greatly underthrew the ball in the first half that resulted in the pass interference. Lucky it wasn't picked off.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50405 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:44 pm to
I just don't get it. In a lot of these games his performance is why it's even close. He's been adequate but he could be doing a whole lot more to put these games away quicker.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50405 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:47 pm to
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This guy leads us on that drive against LSU, then does it a week later against MSU; in-spite of our receivers letting him down and you find a way to make him our problem.


A lot of our problems in the LSU game were because of Blake. I'm not sure how anyone could think he played a complete game there. There were even displaying completion charts during the game that made it pretty obvious what the problem was. Our defense kept us in that game and we had to have some lucky breaks to beat Arkansas because of similar issues. His play was definitely lacking in the Ole Miss game as well. It's like we aren't watching the same games.

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You will never stop this anti-Blake agenda, will you?

Don't know who is worse between you and the other one. Both of you are tiresome.


I'm not anti-Blake. He's just not the best thing since sliced bread like you seem to think he is.

This team has already exceeded my expectations for this season so I'm satisfied with his performance. If he's able to get it done in the seccg and in the playoff then I will be extremely happy but I'm not sure how anyone could be confident in our chances past the Auburn game.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15181 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:22 pm to
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A lot of our problems in the LSU game were because of Blake.


A lot of our problems was because Coop dropped 5 balls.

Have to ignore those facts though huh?

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I'm not anti-Blake.


Yes you are. All anyone has to do is take a short look at your posting history.

You literally whine about him not being perfect. No one thinks he is or expects him to be. You bash him if he isn't then avoid pointing out the mistakes everyone else is making around him; for instance the many drops we've had the past two games.

We've had like 15 drops in two games. I'm sure you will find a way to blame that on him too
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