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Bammers in the NFL : PFF Rankings through 2 Weeks

Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:28 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:28 am
91+ = Elite
85-90 = High Quality
80-84 = Above Average
70-79 = Average
60-69 = Below Average
Sub 60 = Poor


Running Back
17. Eddie Lacy (70.0)
19. Derrick Henry (68.7)
33. Mark Ingram (59.6)
49. TJ Yeldon (49.9)
NR. Kenyan Drake (63.0)

Fullback
9. Jalston Fowler (43.8)

Wide Receiver
4. Julio Jones (82.8)
48. Amari Cooper (71.5)

Tackle
48. Cyrus Kouandjio (48.7)
65. Andre Smith (39.1)

Guard
15. James Carpenter (78.5)
26. Evan Mathis (77.0)
28. DJ Fluker (76.5)
59. Chance Warmack (46.8)

Center
17. Ryan Kelly (74.0)
21. Anthony Steen (70.0)

Line - Edge Defender
101. Wallace Gilberry (40.0)

Line - Interior Defender
16. Quinton Dial (79.4)
58. A'Shawn Robinson (61.6)
67. Jarran Reed (48.1)
77. Ed Stinson (46.2)

Linebackers
23. Dont'a Hightower (78.9)
23. CJ Mosley (78.9)
25. Mark Barron (78.8)

Safety
9. Landon Collins (82.5)
41. Ha-Ha Clinton Dix (73.4)
60. Rashad Johnson (51.0)

Cornerback
41. Dre Kirkpatrick (73.3)
77. Kareem Jackson (46.4)
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 9:29 am
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:01 pm to
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91+ = Elite
85-90 = High Quality
80-84 = Above Average
70-79 = Average
60-69 = Below Average
Sub 60 = Poor


How do they determine the rankings? Do they take into account how a player is or isn't used and where or not that usage is proper (see Ingram, Mark for example of a franchise not using player properly)?

And if Julio and Amari are "above average" and "average" instead of High Quality or Elite, then I'm not sure I value their ranking system.

This catch is absolutely ELITE
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83478 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:16 pm to
PFF is interesting, but I have to believe it's far from consistent.

I also think bias creeps it's way in to their rankings and grades.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:31 pm to
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PFF is interesting, but I have to believe it's far from consistent. I also think bias creeps it's way in to their rankings and grades.


Agree - it's also not that great because I don't agree that certain players who are pass rushers should have their run/pass defensive "grades" averaged together almost even. That isn't their job.

Even so, it's interesting.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 2:32 pm to
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How do they determine the rankings? Do they take into account how a player is or isn't used and where or not that usage is proper (see Ingram, Mark for example of a franchise not using player properly)? And if Julio and Amari are "above average" and "average" instead of High Quality or Elite, then I'm not sure I value their ranking system.


They are game grades. Julio has been good but he hasn't had huge games yet and he's dropped 3-4 balls.

I only watched Amari vs the Falcons, and he had some ups and downs as well.

Julio will be a 92+ grade by year end. He always is.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83478 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:26 pm to
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How do they determine the rankings?
I think they look at every play and determine if a player made a positive or negitive play. You get a + for good plays and - for bad plays.

Take a QB. I'm pretty sure they determine so many things that are just too subjective. How difficult was the throw. Not ever 80 yard completion is the same. Not every incompletion is the same. Was it the right read? Should the pass have been caught? Did the receiver just make a great play?

They do this stuff for every position. If the person grading likes one team, and doesn't like another, their grades are going to be very different.

One of their most picked apart grades ever was for a game the Packers played. Rodgers was like 30/34 for 350 and 4 TDs or something. They shite all over his performance and later apologized(I believe) because of how ridiculous the grade was.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:31 pm to
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9. Landon Collins (82.5)


LC has been fricking awesome for us the first two games. Got him out of FS and made him SS and he's responded beautifully.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:56 pm to
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4. Julio Jones (82.8)



Only day I strongly disliked Julio. Of course he lights Sean Smith and Reggie Nelson up still.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:56 pm to
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4. Julio Jones (82.8)



Only day I strongly disliked Julio. Of course he lights Sean Smith and Reggie Nelson up still.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 6:45 pm to
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