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Any of you baws live in Brookside?

Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:43 pm
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 10:43 pm
Your local government made the news

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Months of research and dozens of interviews by AL.com found that Brookside’s finances are rocket-fueled by tickets and aggressive policing. In a two-year period between 2018 and 2020 Brookside revenues from fines and forfeitures soared more than 640 percent and now make up half the city’s total income. And the police chief has called for more.


Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17905 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:10 pm to
I posted in the O-T thread on this. It's a great way to get your department disbanded. A town not far from me was so bad AAA paid for billboards alerting drivers about the frickery that was waiting a few miles down the road. Sadly they avoided being charged for any crimes, but it was great seeing them all unemployed.

Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5677 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:49 pm to
The state AG needs to investigate. Sounds like Rasco/Boss Hogg shite going on... pretty nuts.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:52 pm to
Not saying that this bullshite is right, but it’s been going on forever. It needs t9 stop. It’s a flat out abuse of power.


Brookside is a small scale version of this.


Folks need to look into the fluctuations of speed limits from. Montgomery until you hit the coast. Those small towns prey on folks that don’t realize they have to slow down
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
19029 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 12:07 am to
I was surprised to learn Brookside was even an actual town. Figured it was unincorporated like most places in that area
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50414 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 1:39 am to
I'm not sure it's as alarming as the article makes it out to be. They went from 1 police officer to 8. That's an 800% increase. A 640% increase in fines would not be unreasonable in that scenario.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17905 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 5:19 am to
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That's an 800% increase. A 640% increase in fines would not be unreasonable in that scenario.

Ok, it's clear you didn't read the article.
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By 2020 Brookside made more misdemeanor arrests than it has residents. It went from towing 50 vehicles in 2018 to 789 in 2020 – each carrying fines. That’s a 1,478% increase, with 1.7 tows for every household in town.

Justify this
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17214 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 5:56 am to
That’s just an organized crime group posing as a police department.

Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24489 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:07 am to
I know there’s got to be a contrarian for every thought but come on
Posted by ml
Japan
Member since Mar 2015
133 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:24 am to
Another Talladega County poster???
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50414 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:35 am to
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Justify this


That's an increase in vehicles towed, not total fines collected. Two completely different statistics.

You're basically saying that they went from every officer averaging 50 tows a year (because there was only one) to every officer averaging about 99 tows a year (789 divided by 8). So they doubled the average by going from 1 officer to 8. If the fine revenue increased like that too, then that might be alarming, but according to that article it didn't.

No one interviewed for that article makes any sort of claim that they can prove they didn't do what they were ticketed for. One guy says he swears he didn't do it but then isn't willing to wait in line to contest his ticket. I've never been to any court anywhere where I got to immediately contest a ticket. He clearly knows he did what he's accused of doing and doesn't want to waste his day to contest something he'll lose.

It should be expected for these types of things to increase when you increase the size of your police department. More police officers = increased capability to find people breaking the law.

How many people were able to prove they didn't do what they cops accused them of? I'm betting it's a number very close to zero. I'm certain cop-hater Archibald would have mentioned them if he'd found one.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by Crimson77
Member since Dec 2019
774 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:02 am to
One of the WORST speed traps is down in flotation/century right on the FL border heading down to Pensacola after you get off i65.

The road in and out is a 65 limit. Then it immediately slams down to 35 for no good reason other than for them to hit drivers who don’t know how bad of a speed trap it is.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17905 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:22 am to
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No one interviewed for that article makes any sort of claim that they didn't do what they were ticketed for. One guy says he swears he didn't do it


quote:

You're basically saying that they went from every officer averaging 50 tows a year (because there was only one) to every officer averaging about 99 tows a year (789 divided by 8). So they doubled the average by going from 1 officer to 8. If the fine revenue increased like that too, then that might be alarming, but according to that article it didn't.

So tow and impound fees don't go to the sheriff department directly, but I guarantee someone in the department's nephson or cousin in law is in that industry, lining their pockets too. Citizens are still losing their asses to this backwoods frickery.
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It should be expected for these types of things to increase when you increase the size of your police department. More police officers = increased capability to find people breaking the law.

8 cops for only 6 miles of road Again, it's obvious you didn't bother read the article.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50414 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:47 am to
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My mistake. I meant to say they don't make the claim that they can prove they didn't do what they were ticketed for. I'll update my post.

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8 cops for only 6 miles of road


There are 168 hours in a week. To have an officer patrolling for every hour of the week, without paying overtime, you would need at least 4 officers. That assumes they don't have any officers that man wherever the police station is and that the chief patrols, so let's split the difference and just add 1 administrative type function that they're counting as an "officer" (because the article refers to the chief as an officer throughout). That's a minimum of 5 people just to have one officer patrol every hour of the day and only have a supervising officer for 40 of a 168 hour week. Even on a 6 mile piece of road. It does not seem unreasonable to have 3 other officers on top of that, especially if they ride two to a vehicle.

I don't know about where you live, but in most places in the state the sheriffs department does not handle traffic violations, so if you want a police presence to patrol your streets then the local citizens have to hire that police presence themselves.

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So tow and impound fees don't go to the sheriff department directly, but I guarantee someone in the department's nephson or cousin in law is in that industry, lining their pockets too. Citizens are still losing their asses to this backwoods frickery.


Not sure what you mean about the sheriffs department here.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18308 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:04 am to
Remember that young cop that got fired for exposing this crap?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52685 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:27 am to
I can't imagine too many out of towners even go through brookside. Do they have jurisdiction over that part of 22? It's gotta be all their own townspeople they are fricking.

Eta: just read, so a mile and a half of 22. I'm assuming that's where the lions share of tickets are handed out.



"do u knows how fass u were goin hooman???"



This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5677 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:34 am to
Has Saban sent a letter in support of the police department yet?
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 10:53 am to
Brookside has a riot control vehicle. For a “town” with 1,200 people, a Dollar General, and no traffic lights. I’m thinking they have too much money, and that money is coming from screwing over their own residents.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:33 am to
Centreville, Alabama used to be the same way!..don't know now.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
24489 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 11:49 am to
Now that the 4 lane takes you outside the city and not through it, I don’t see many cops at all on my drives to and from Tuscaloosa. Back when you had to go through the city, it was a bad speed trap.
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