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re: Alabama Hires Patriots' TE Brian Daboll as Offensive Coordinator

Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:54 pm to
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This group of coaches WILL NOT be hired as Alabama Offensive Coordinator:

Lincoln Riley, Sonny Cumbie, Sonny Dykes, Phil Longo, Art Briles, Kendal Briles – or anyone named Briles for that matter.


Quite a list of high-powered offensive coaches that will not be considered for one reason. Well, for two of them, there are multiple reasons.

The one thing they all share that disqualifies them for Alabama Offensive Coordinator – two words, Air Raid.

They are all disciples of the Air-Raid school of offensive football. Not familiar with the Air-Raid? Here is a brief history:

The “Air Raid” was popularized by Lavell Edwards at BYU. In the mid-1970’s Edwards started using an old Sid Gillman playbook so BYU could stretch the field vertically, horizontally and unpredictably.

Sid Gillman started his coaching career in 1938 and ended it after the 1974 season. Gillman shaped an early NFL propensity to throw often and labeled his offensive style “feast or famine”.

Today’s “Air-Raid”, more than anything, is the old “feast or famine” offense of Sid Gillman. The coaches that followed and embraced this style of wide-open football include Edwards, Hal Mumme, Mike Leach, Dana Holgorsen, Kliff Kingsbury, Art Briles and Kendal, Sonny Dykes, Sonny Cumbie, Phil Longo, Lincoln Riley, among others.

Even without any inside information from Miss Terry, we can be pretty sure the thought of an Air-Raid coach on the staff at Alabama would give Nick Saban nightmares.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:56 pm to
Oklahoma ran the ball pretty well IIRC
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 12:59 pm to
I think Lincoln Riley is a fantastic OC. He's as good as I've seen at balancing a solid, power run game and spreading the field.

Now, he also had a fantastic senior WR, junior TE, Heisman QB and 2 NFL RBs. But still.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:08 pm to
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Oklahoma ran the ball pretty well IIRC

Yeah. I'm not ready to buy this echo chamber narrative that Saban has all of sudden done a 180 on offensive style and philosophy.

A lot has been invested in migrating toward a balanced adaptable, multiple offense that blends modern DT-QB, zone-read RPOs, jet sweeps, screens, etc. with a physical blended zone-read and conventional downhill inside running attack.

All season long, Saban repeatedly expressed his desire to get the passing game going better and get the ball into the hands of our receiving corp players. Saban loves explosive chunk plays as much as he loves being able to run the ball down other teams throats.

All season long, the media's narrative was about how Saban has changed his tune and embraced incorporating modern spread offense concepts into Alabama's offense.

Now, suddenly the narrative is that he's changed his mind about that. I'm just not buying it.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 1:17 pm
Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:10 pm to
I don't think Saban cares what type of offense we run, as long as its balanced. That's all he really wants, and all we really want.
Posted by Triple Daves
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:26 pm to
Yea, we're not going to Les Miles I-formation 47 plays a game football or anything.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 1:53 pm to
Eric Kiesau, Lane Kiffin's 2015 roommate making early impression as OC at Fresno State
AL.com | Jul 10, 2016
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Thursday night is "date night" for Alabama coaches during the season, the one in-season evening coaches can get home relatively early and spend time with their families.

Last year, Alabama offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin often spent those nights at home with Eric Kiesau.

Kiffin's family was in California. Kiesau's was in Washington. So the two spent many of those Thursday nights relaxing and watching football at their home a short walk from the Tide's team headquarters.

Prior to taking over as Fresno State's offensive coordinator in January, Kiesau spent last year as an offensive analyst with Alabama, living with Kiffin while helping the Tide transition to more of a no-huddle, up-tempo offense.

At Fresno, the 43-year old Kiesau said his offense will be a combination of 2015 Alabama and what he ran as the offensive coordinator at Washington in 2013.

"Really excited about the progress he's been able to make, not only with our players, but with our entire offensive staff and bringing them together around a common focus of what we want to be offensively," Fresno State coach Tim DeRuyter said. "What we're doing is a little bit more mentally taxing on our players, but he's made it simple. We had relatively few busts during the spring, and I was impressed with how quickly our players assimilated to our system."

Before joining Alabama, Kiesau was Colorado's offensive coordinator in 2009 and 2010, California's passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach in 2011, Washington's offensive coordinator in 2012 and 2013 and the wide receivers coach and eventually the interim offensive coordinator at Kansas in 2014.

Within Kiesau's up-tempo spread offense, Washington ranked 13th nationally in total offense in 2013. However, coach Steve Sarkisian left Washington for USC in December 2013 and retained the Trojans' previous offensive coordinator. Kiesau went to Kansas, but he was again out of work after Kansas fired coach Charlie Weis.

Alabama hired Kiesau last March heading into Kiffin's second season as the Tide offensive coordinator.

"In 2014, Bama, they were a huddle team. But near the end of the season, they started to go with a little bit more no-huddle and using tempo," Kiesau said. "So when the season was over, coach Saban wanted to go all-in, all no-huddle, and coach Kiffin as well. But they didn't know the process of how to do it and what it takes to go from a huddle team, where you have long calls and a lot of long play calls, to a no-huddle team, where you have to abbreviate everything down and shorten it down."

Enter Kiesau.

Some plays when you're a huddle team can be as many as eight or nine words, Kiesau said. When you're going no-huddle, you want play calls to be two or three words.

Helping Alabama simplify its play calls and terminology was one of Kiesau's primary contributions last year.

With Kiesau's assistance, Tide coaches also learned how to better use the sideline boards that have become so popular with no-huddle teams.

Kiesau later served as a sounding board and was there to answer no-huddle-related questions like 'How'd you handle this, Kiesau?' or 'How'd you do this?'

Aided by Kiesau, Alabama ranked 45th nationally in total offense last year despite having to replace all but two offensive starters.

"That was my primary role, to transition them from a huddle team to a no-huddle team and help them go through the process of changing, using the boards, using the signs, how you signal it and how you communicate it," said Kiesau, who also assisted the Tide with its scouting of upcoming opponents.

Much of Kiesau's time was spent with his roommate, Kiffin.

Kiffin was the primary person Kiesau was in contact with during the workday. He usually stood with Kiffin and the quarterbacks during practice. The two were then obviously also together after practice.

Kiffin as a roommate?

"It was fun," Kiesau said. "It was easy because of being right across the street from the facility, so we could just walk on over, work all day, get some dinner, then go back to the room and just hang out."

Kiesau said he couldn't think of any great or funny stories from his time living with Kiffin.

"We worked all day, and we wouldn't get back to the place until 11 o'clock sometimes, and we'd just sit and watch TV," Kiesau said.

Kiffin was one of several big-name coaches that endorsed Kiesau as DeRuyter went through the process of finding a new offensive coordinator.

The initial recommendation was from former Boise State and Colorado coach Dan Hawkins, whom Kiesau worked under at Colorado from 2006-10.

There were later endorsements from others like Oregon coach Mark Helfrich, Weis and former California coach Jeff Tedford. And Kiffin.

"Lane couldn't say enough good things about him," DeRuyter said. "He was really impressed with the level of detail, his knowledge of the game, his approach to how he installed things, just everything as a football coach that you would want. Lane's been a head coach, and I think he knows what he's looking for in an assistant. He was very detailed in how he thought Eric hit all those kinds of things, that you don't have to be a micromanager with him, that you give him the big picture and he'll run with it, that he's going to set a direction, that he's going to be positive for the players, that they're going to enjoy playing for him and that he's going to recruit his tail off. All of the things you want to hear as a head coach."

In all, DeRuyter talked to around 10 candidates. Kiesau was one of three DeRuyter interviewed in person. What DeRuyter said was the "icing on the cake" was Kiesau's year at Alabama with Saban and his now former roommate.

"To have some insight on that system and how coach Saban does things and to see how we could maybe incorporate some of those principles into our program, I thought that was really a unique opportunity for us to hire someone like Eric with that background," DeRuyter said. "And in interviewing the different candidates, I was struck by how organized Eric was, how he was able to incorporate a few of the principles of what coach Saban was bringing to the table within his own personal philosophy. So it just all came together where it felt like he was the right fit here, and he's done a terrific job."
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:04 pm to
Seems like it would be an easy choice to get Kiesau back but was Fresno good last year on offense?
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Seems like it would be an easy choice to get Kiesau back but was Fresno good last year on offense?

I don't know, but there can be variables (e.g., player & other staff talent levels) that limit success.

I think Eric Kiesau may be a legit candidate. Saban brought him in as an analyst to work with Lane at Bama on transitioning the offense to what we run now. He was OC at Washington under Sarkesian. Lane and Sark both apparently have a high regard for his coaching ability. He has pretty extensive OC experience and apparently is also a solid QB & WRs coach. Kiesau reportedly liked and focused on learning and adopting Saban's coaching & organizational approach. Seems like a good fit to me.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:15 pm to
Fresno was terrible on offense last year.

He has a job up here at Boise State right now and the locals are afraid their offense is going to be a clusterfrick between Kiesau, Harsin and their OC. It's fun to hear their melts on the radio. They think they know what big boy football is.

Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 2:20 pm to
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All season long, Saban repeatedly expressed his desire to get the passing game going better and get the ball into the hands of our receiving corp players. Saban loves explosive chunk plays as much as he loves being able to run the ball down other teams throats.


We had success getting the ball to the receivers when we ran the pro set. Saban expressing a desire "to get the passing game going better" was his nice way of saying that Hurts needed to improve.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:16 pm to
Many are guessing at Alabama OC selection; Coach Nick Saban will choose from his list
Kirk McNair | Scout.com
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Nick Saban is searching for a new offensive coordinator at Alabama

It wasn’t long after Steve Sarkisian departed Alabama for the Atlanta Falcons that the guessing began as to whom Crimson Tide Coach Nick Saban might tap as Bama’s third offensive coordinator in the past month and a half.

And they are guesses, even though the list expands almost daily and there is a chance that someone will actually nail it. The problem with outsiders — and that’s basically everyone except the man who will make the decision — is those who are not Alabama head coach have a severe shortage of information. Nick Saban, who has hired every Alabama coach over the past decade, will make the selection based on his knowledge of the candidates (dozens of them, not just the handful we can think of), his understanding of the Crimson Tide squad, and Saban’s preference for what he wants his new man to accomplish.

Alabama has the advantage of many, many coaches having a desire to add “Coached at Alabama under Nick Saban” at the top of their resume´s.

Because every offensive coordinator under Saban at Alabama has also been the quarterbacks coach, it is a reasonable assumption — but just an assumption — that the new hire will have both duties.

Does Saban want primarily a teacher of quarterbacks? After all, the depth chart at that position shows a sophomore with one year of experience (albeit a very fine year, Southeastern Conference Offensive Player of the Year and leader of a team that won its first 14 games before coming up just short in the national championship game) and two true freshmen arriving in time for spring practice.

The sophomore, Jalen Hurts, is joined by Tua Tagovailoa, who entered The University in January, and Mac Jones, who is expected to enter on Monday.

Teacher is always a primary aspect of being a coach, but the offensive coordinator also will have great responsibility in how the offense is run.

Saban has had a philosophy of new coaches bringing new ideas, but also being able to fit into the Alabama offense, not reinvent it. But Saban also has shown flexibility in moving from a pro-set offense to more of a tempo, dual-threat quarterback style to take advantage of how the college game is being played.

He has also shown that he thinks at a different level than most, as demonstrated by his surprising selection of Lane Kiffin for the job beginning in 2014. That move resulted in three SEC Championships, one national title, and two other appearances in the College Football Playoff.

Just as Sarkisian had been elevated to the job from offensive analyst on the Bama staff, Saban can look to Mike Locksley, like Sarkisian a former college head coach and offensive coordinator. Locksley’s duties were not specified when he was made an offensive assistant coach.

We have heard many other names, of course, including the current head coach at SMU, Chad Morris. It is hard to imagine a head coach giving up his position to be an offensive coordinator, even at Alabama.

Chip Kelly’s name was out there for awhile, but that rumor seems to be running on stumps rather than legs.
Recently fired Oregon Coach Mark Helfrich is said to be interested in a coordinator’s job, and he certainly knows the fast-paced offense.

Many believe that George Godsey, most recently offensive coordinator for the Houston Texans, is high on the list.
Oklahoma has had a high-powered offense and Lincoln Riley, offensive coordinator for the Sooners, is considered one of the best in the business.

TCU is considered to have one of the nation’s most improved offenses last season with Sonny Cumbie as offensive coordinator.

Alabama played Washington in the semifinals of the College Football Playoff in the Peach Bowl in Atlanta, and one of the top names on the Huskies coaching staff is Jonathan Smith, the offensive coordinator.

In bit of irony, two offensive coaches left the Alabama staff at the conclusion of the season to take offensive coordinator positions.

Mario Cristobal, an outstanding recruiter and coach of Bama’s offensive line before taking over just tackles and tight ends last season, is now the co-offensive coordinator at Oregon.

Billy Napier, who was the Tide’s wide receivers coach, was hired as offensive coordinator at Arizona State.
Those two might seem like long shots, but if they have been slow to sign contracts…

Rest assured that Saban is aware of all these possibilities. And also rest assured that he is aware of many others.

When will it happen? Don't be surprised if the answer doesn't come quickly.

One might also count on Saban having to make this decision again in upcoming seasons. College football teams looking for success are naturally drawn to getting coaches from the nation’s best program, which means coaching turnover in Tuscaloosa.

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 3:28 pm to
Steve Sarkisian says Alabama in good place, will keep winning lots of games without him
Chris Kirschner | SEC Country
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After Steve Sarkisian left the University of Alabama to become the Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator, a report surfaced stating his relationship with Nick Saban had fractured because of differences with the team’s offensive philosophy.

During a conference call welcoming him to the Falcons, Sarkisian didn’t entertain the thought that the relationship between him and Saban had deteriorated. Sarkisian said Saban wanted him to remain as the Crimson Tide’s offensive coordinator.

“Obviously, he would have loved for me to stay, but he was understanding,” Sarkisian said during the media conference. “I know Coach Saban and the University of Alabama is in a good place, and they’ll hire a good coordinator and still win a lot of games.”


Sarkisian lasted just one game at Alabama as the team’s offensive coordinator after Lane Kiffin left for the Florida Atlantic head coach opening in January. Before replacing Kiffin, Sarkisian was an offensive analyst but didn’t play a huge role in the team’s lead-up to the SEC Championship Game and national title run.

In Atlanta, he will replace Kyle Shanahan, who was named San Francisco 49ers head coach shortly after the Super Bowl. And, he’ll get to work under Falcons coach Dan Quinn, who showed he has no problem handing play-calling to his offensive coordinator and letting him call the shots. That may not have been the case at Alabama under Saban.

Still, Sarkisian said he enjoyed the time he spent in Tuscaloosa.

“I couldn’t be more grateful to Coach Saban and everyone at the University of Alabama,” Sarkisian said. “It’s a tremendous organization. He’s not only a great coach, but he’s also a great man. I’m fortunate that I was able to work with him for the past six months. I’m fortunate to call him a friend. I really appreciate all that he did for me. I was really excited and looking forward to this upcoming season. They’ve got a heck of a football team with some really young and talented players.”

The new Atlanta offensive coordinator said it was hard to leave Alabama because he had started to build relationships with the players on campus, but he said he couldn’t pass up the opportunity to coach a team that was so close to beating the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl.

“It was really hard (to leave Alabama),” Sarkisian said. “With all the things you mention and Coach Saban with the opportunity he gave me and what the future looks like there, it was a difficult one. In this industry, you have to make those tough decisions.”

This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted by crimsontater
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 4:00 pm to
i think we can look at what saban has done with the defense and get a good picture of what he wants on offense.

he runs a hybrid type of defense from when he first got here. he still has the big bad d linemen but the ends and backers are a bit smaller and much faster as are the db's.

i'm guessing he wants a hybrid offense with the ability to go uptempo but be better at smashmouth ball control when needed. which just for me, i think would be a beautiful offense, but thats just me.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:30 pm to
247Sports | ALABAMA OC OPENING
Travis Haney | Feb 9, 2017
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George Godsey and Mark Helfrich are the names 247Sports has heard most often associated with the Alabama offensive coordinator opening.

The 38-year-old Godsey was expected to interview for the job Wednesday, according to BamaOnLine. He has a couple of things working for him, our industry sources are saying: One is his background working on Bill O’Brien and Bill Belichick’s NFL offensive staffs the past few years. Belichick’s endorsement would surely be a ringing one considering Nick Saban’s friendship with the ultra-successful Patriots coach.

Godsey, a former Georgia Tech quarterback, also once worked on a staff at UCF with Tide offensive line coach Brent Key.

Godsey was let go by Houston after this past season - but one source said he didn’t think Saban would judge Godsey too harshly based on the Texans’ quarterback situation.

We’re told by sources that Helfrich is not as strong of a candidate, though he does have an extensive background as a quarterback developer.

The bulk of that experience was in the Pac-12, just as was the case with Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian. That may work against Helfrich in this case, with one source indicating that Saban is considering gravitating back toward a more pro-style-centric play-caller.

The sources say it’s also possible that recently promoted assistant Mike Locksley could move into the play-caller role. If that does happen, Saban would likely still be on the hunt for a quarterbacks coach.

Locksley was promoted from an analyst position to a full-time assistant when Mario Cristobal left for Oregon. On Jan. 20, he was named co-OC with Sarkisian.

We’ve been told by those close to the program that FSU assistant Tim Brewster is under consideration for the staff’s other opening, vacated by Billy Napier taking the Arizona State OC position.

One source we spoke with believed Napier was ultimately passed over for the Bama OC role, prompting his decision to leave and take a play-calling gig. Those close to the program say Saban had known for a week or two that Sarkisian would take the Falcons job after signing day.

CHIP KELLY
Even before reportedly declining interest Wednesday, multiple sources were telling us that Chip Kelly to Alabama was a “fantasy.”

“Those egos in one room?” one industry source said, laughing. “I can’t even imagine.”

Another source thought there was enough mutual respect that Kelly and Saban at least talked about the job — and that they left the door open for Kelly to visit Alabama and exchange ideas with Saban.

He said Saban will “meet with anyone” if he thinks it’ll help his program stay sharp. Kelly has a similar penchant for consultation.

“They both love to tinker, maybe more than any coaches I’ve been around,” one SEC coach said last month, adding that Saban is not credited enough with how he’s been willing to adapt and evolve without losing balance.

The coach used Charlie Strong at Texas as an example of change causing unintended consequences.

“He repaired the offense only to kind of lose the defense,” he said. “(Saban) always has a feel of what to change and what not to change, what’s too much change.”
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:48 pm to
Gonna laugh if Brewster is hired.

Going from negative recruiting Bama on WRs for FSU right down to NSD, then ends up there
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:55 pm to
Where did you get Brewster from?
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:59 pm to
In the article above
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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75877 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:00 pm to
Oh thank God.

I thought he was saying Brewster for OC.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:02 pm to
I wouldn't mind Brewster as a Wr coach.
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