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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:24 am to RoyHobbs12
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:24 am to RoyHobbs12
Reese - 74
Jones - 105
Smith - 226
Jones - 105
Smith - 226
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:33 am to TomRollTideRitter
Sexton now the #1 PG according to Scout
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Although Alabama signee Collin Sexton moved up just three spots in the national rankings, it’s notable that he was moved to the No. 1 spot at the point guard position, passing Trevon Duval. Duval, a standout at Bradenton (Fla.) IMG Academy, is more naturally gifted than Sexton, but he hasn’t been as consistent as Sexton. You know what you’re getting from Sexton every time he steps on the floor and that’s why he moved atop the position list. Sexton, a 6-foot-2 standout out of Mableton (Ga.) Pebblebrook, is arguably the most competitive kid I’ve covered. He’s tough, plays with great energy and is a relentless driver. Sexton does a good job of playing through contact and is a very good finisher at the rim. He’s also turned into a major threat from long-range. Sexton has always been known as a scorer, but at the McDonald’s All-American game and through Nike Hoop Summit practices, he showed an improvement and a desire to distribute the ball, which is a telling sign in terms of his development. After emerging as a junior, Sexton has dominated nearly every event he’s played in. From FIBA u17 World Championship MVP to leading the EYBL in scoring to impressive outings at McDonald’s and Hoop Summit practices, Sexton has earned his attention every step of the way.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:35 am to TomRollTideRitter
quote:Hasn't Key kept in touch with the kid that went directly overseas (Ferguson?) last year? I don't think that a late 2nd rounder gets enough bonus money to make much difference, do they?...the instructional league doesn't pay jack ($173,000 salary cap for an entire team).
I think if we was going overseas he would've hired an agent already.
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who's in his ear
This is my worry. Some sorry agent looking for a quick pay day will tell him he knows a team will take him first round.
The only way he actually gets drafted is if he has a great combine, and then a great individual workout with some team. Even then it'll be late second round
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:54 am to coachcrisp
Don't know if it means anything but Avery said he and Key already talked about everything and Key never mentioned going overseas. Avery said he expects him to be back at Bama by May 30
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:33 am to Bamafan15
Going full FAN, I like to think that this was somewhat coordinated by CAJ. Having Bama guys being talked about for the draft might help a little with publicity with the recruits.
Being realistic, it's probably just a kid thinking he'll grade out better than he actually is.
Being realistic, it's probably just a kid thinking he'll grade out better than he actually is.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:39 am to Teague
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Going full FAN, I like to think that this was somewhat coordinated by CAJ. Having Bama guys being talked about for the draft might help a little with publicity with the recruits.
Or it is a super smart decision to let them hear from NBA people about what they need to work on. I wish Dazon and Hall so of do it too. It is a massive opportunity.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:49 am to RTR America
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Or it is a super smart decision to let them hear from NBA people about what they need to work on
I think that may play some small part. But, I mean, anybody who knows anything about basketball can tell these kids what they need to work on. It's no big secret. I don't think they would do it just for that reason. In reality, I think in a case like this, it's a combination of all the things we've listed.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:56 am to GenesChin
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Don't see it yet on here, but Sexton was bumped up to #3 by 247's rankings.
I think it is their own internal rankings, not the composite. Either way, that's a huge move into the top 5
What's more surprising is he has moved to 4th on the composite rankings. I figured 247 would have him 3rd because Bamba is the only kid Meyer loves to rave about more and Porter is just a no-brainer.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:04 pm to coachcrisp
I don't think Ferguson would have very high words for playing overseas. He averaged like 4 ppg coming off the bench and returned to the US to prepare for the draft as soon as the Australian season ended.
Regardless of what it pays, most guys would rather be in the D-League because it's a lot easier to get from there to the pros, and most guys would rather stay in the U.S. If Key was planning on going overseas, he would hire an agent. There would be no reason not to.
Regardless of what it pays, most guys would rather be in the D-League because it's a lot easier to get from there to the pros, and most guys would rather stay in the U.S. If Key was planning on going overseas, he would hire an agent. There would be no reason not to.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:14 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Obviously I'm selfish and want Key back for us to be a good team next year, but I also want him to come back and get better so he can get drafted in a year or two. I see him as a first rounder potentially if he continues to get better. Leaving now would be a huge mistake. Like someone said before, Sexton coming in allows the offense to run more smoothly and Key will benefit from that. I'm hoping he's just getting his draft grade to see what he needs to improve on.
Avery probably said "Braxton, go get your grade and see what you need to improve on. At this point you're not projected to be picked in the draft, but if they tell you that you have a good chance to be drafted, then I'll leave that up to you on what you do, but we hope to have you back".
Avery probably said "Braxton, go get your grade and see what you need to improve on. At this point you're not projected to be picked in the draft, but if they tell you that you have a good chance to be drafted, then I'll leave that up to you on what you do, but we hope to have you back".
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:47 pm to Bamafan15
That's what I meant earlier with the Avery pulled a Nick Saban. I believe Saban does this a year before guys are actually ready for the league.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:53 pm to Tide or Die87
Sexton is going to be playing in the BallIsLife AA Game May 6th LINK
How many of these things are there?
How many of these things are there?
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:56 pm to Tide or Die87
And I'm sure Saban gives Avery some tips like that as well
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:16 pm to Teague
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I think that may play some small part.
It is a massive part of it. I think I saw that 66 kids have declared so far without an agent. It is largely for this exact reason.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 1:56 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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I don't think Ferguson would have very high words for playing overseas. He averaged like 4 ppg coming off the bench and returned to the US to prepare for the draft as soon as the Australian season ended.
These are pretty typical stats for a guard, which is why it hasn't really hurt his draft stock.
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Regardless of what it pays, most guys would rather be in the D-League because it's a lot easier to get from there to the pros, and most guys would rather stay in the U.S.
Getting drafted from overseas is a 1000 times easier. Glen Rice is the only player in recent memory that I remember getting drafted from D-League. If you don't get drafted, it's a wash. Extremely rare for an undrafted player making it out of D-League, but it's equally rare that you see those undrafted guys comeback from overseas to play in the NBA.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:00 pm to RTR America
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I saw that 66 kids have declared so far without an agent
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It is largely for this exact reason
Opinion
I think it's more about them wanting to see how much the NBA likes them.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:12 pm to Teague
That's not an opinion. It is why they made the damn rules the way they are.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:23 pm to RTR America
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That's not an opinion
Unless you have some database that lists the reasons that kids declare for the draft without an agent, then yes, it's an opinion.
I really don't want to get into a debate about this though. It doesn't matter. I just hope he comes back.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:26 pm to BigBird09
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Getting drafted from overseas is a 1000 times easier. Glen Rice is the only player in recent memory that I remember getting drafted from D-League. If you don't get drafted, it's a wash.
This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Glen Rice chose the D league over college.
If you don't get drafted, you have a lot better chance of getting to the NBA through the D League than overseas. About a third of NBA players played in the D League at some point. Patrick Beverley is the only American player I can think of who immediately played overseas after college and got back to the NBA, and he was drafted.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Glen Rice chose the D league over college.
I didn't think this is what you meant because you're a smart guy, but since your post mentioned Terrance Ferguson and didn't transition to undrafted players, I covered both bases. The next part of my post had exactly what you were talking about in your post.
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If you don't get drafted, you have a lot better chance of getting to the NBA through the D League than overseas. About a third of NBA players played in the D League at some point. Patrick Beverley is the only American player I can think of who immediately played overseas after college and got back to the NBA, and he was drafted.
The overwhelming majority of that third of the NBA players were draft picks assigned to d-league teams because they weren't getting any burn in the NBA. It is extremely rare for undrafted NBA players to make it to the league regardless of where they play. The majority of the very few that have made it have had experience overseas as well as in the D-League.
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