re: After processing all that has happened... I think Bama will be much improved

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Some of ya'll seem to think that the WR position is one where you just "coach it up" and "scheme" them open. It's not.

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You sure you're totally understanding the term "scheme them open?"

Have you ever noticed a team make an adjustment that places the linebacker on a WR or a RB that he has no chance to cover ?

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You can't coach up and scheme explosiveness or quickness.

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Cooper Kupp ran a 4.62 forty and then later verified that time at his pro day running a 4.61

He would later finish the 2021 season as the NFL's leader in receptions (145), receiving yards (1,947) and receiving touchdowns (16), becoming the first player since Steve Smith in 2005 to capture the league's receiving "triple crown"

I read much of this thread, and there’s good information. But if there’s one thing that makes me shake my head and boggle, is the statement that Nick Saban, the goat, was not a good game day coach. That’s nonsense and cope. He was the best game day coach. How many times in his 17 years was Bama not in the game until the final horn? The Trevor Lawrence National championship game is the one that comes to mind, and maybe there were a couple others.

Total nonsense. He is the Goat because he was a great recruiter, developer and coach. I hope Bama has great success going forward. But please don’t cope by trying to down play Nick Saban’s greatness.

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Some of ya'll seem to think that the WR position is one where you just "coach it up" and "scheme" them open. It's not. And it's also not a position where you can just put some guy here and another guy here and = same results. You listed off all the receivers but what if all of those receivers are slot receivers and none are 1st or 2nd receivers? You can't coach up and scheme explosiveness or quickness.

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Kalen DeBoer has a similar background to Mike Norvell at FSU. They're both small college wide receivers that were very good at their level. Nick Saban was renowned for his ability to coach defensive backs. He was a DB in college and coached DBs for many years before moving up the ladder. Kalen DeBoer may be somewhat similar with WRs. He knows the craft and he's taught it. His teams are consistently very productive at receiver.

I don't like making guarantees too often but I will make one regarding this new staff: we will get much better play from our WR contributors this year than we did in 2022 and 2023 despite losing our best returning receiver.

We're recruited all these sub-4.5 guys but they never seem to be able to get open unless it is a deep over. It is because Wiggins wasn't coaching these kids worth a damn. That's why the 2020 and 2021 classes bounced once it was clear this man wasn't going to turn them into Smitty or Waddle. You're going to see receivers that understand what they're trying to accomplish on plays: knowing who they need to attack or what space they need to find to get open; they're going to have cleaner technique.

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After processing all that has happened... I think Bama will be much improved

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I'm happy for you... you've moved on from pushing Kiffin down our throats! Good read bud

I'm not going to disparage Saban the goat. That was not my intention. The numbers do indicate that he was superior in recruiting and player development.

Five stars are drafted at a rate of 60% and four stars a 20%. Saban had 173 players drafted at Bama. Clearly that exceeds the expected value. And if you look at the first two rounds it's even more impressive.

So I misspoke there no doubt.

Clearly replacing the best college football coach in college football history, the man that has 7 NC, with a coach that has never won a NC is a massive upgrade.

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Clearly replacing the best college football coach in college football history, the man that has 7 NC, with a coach that has never won a NC is a massive upgrade.

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Actually according to the analytics DeBoer and his staff are in fact a massive upgrade over CNS and his staff, yes.

But don't let analytics get in your way.

So let me get this straight. You lose the best coach of all time. Ever. You lose a lot of players from the portal draft etc. and next season you will have a BETTER RECORD than last year AND MAKE it further in the playoffs than you did last year? Man, those crimson glasses are pretty thick aren’t they?

Reality check. I know it’s gonna be hard for some of you. Really hard. Because some of you think that there is gonna be no drop off after a roster and coaching change. You are just gonna joyless murderball the entire country. Ok then. But mark my words. You are closer to 7-5 than you are 12-0. Not even saban won 8 games in his first year. Let’s temper the expectations just a fuzz shall we? There’s gotta be growing pains. That’s just a fact. Just take a look at my team. We are loaded everywhere, and just made the playoffs, but I think we will take a step back because of the new conference we will be entering. I have some pretty thick burnt orange glasses myself, but I’m a realist. I see things the way they are and not just some roll tide Willie, we are gonna steam roll everyone’s arse by 30 we play bullshite. Sorry ain’t gonna happen.

Look man I get loving your team. And wanting them to win a lot, but you are crazy if you just think bama isn’t gonna take a step back with a brand new coaching staff and possibly and new quarterback. Just how the cookie crumbles.

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You are closer to 7-5 than you are 12-0. Not even saban won 8 games in his first year. Let’s temper the expectations just a fuzz shall we?

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DeBoer has a pretty solid track record of turning things around quickly. He was part of turnarounds at Indiana, Fresno State, and of course Washington. This is the first time he inherits a solid foundation. I don’t think it’s too lofty to expect a 10-2 regular season and potential playoff appearance.

The offensive staff is a massive upgrade. The defense is wait and see. Still a lot of talent left on the roster despite the hysteria over portal deflections.