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Can we talk about this "batter has to move to avoid being HBP" rule in baseball?

Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:57 pm
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:57 pm
Just watched a Georgia player get nailed in the shoulder in the dead middle of the batters box and was called back to keep batting because the ump deemed he didn't attempt to avoid the pitch.

I know this is a new rule they're enforcing, but what exactly is the fricking point of it?
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 4:58 pm
Posted by dhuck20
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:58 pm to
First I've heard of it, how terrible.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:59 pm to
How Georgia.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46420 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:59 pm to
It's the first time I've seen it actually enforced so far this season but I don't get it. Why is the onus on the batter to avoid the pitch rather than on the pitcher to, you know, not hit the guy batting?
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46420 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 4:59 pm to
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The Boat


4-1, 10-5
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:09 pm to
Cute numbers. Here are a few more.

6 CWS Championships
16 CWS appearances
27 NCAA appearances
11 SEC tournament titles
15 SEC championships

Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:11 pm to
I think he thinks I'm a Florida State fan for some reason.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:12 pm to
It has always been a rule & in my entire life of watching & playing baseball I have only seen it enforced at any level one time and in that one time it was very obvious the player was deliberately leaning over the plate. Why college baseball is now doing it is beyond me. You don't a lot of reaction time on a 90 mph fastball. However I cannot count the times I have seen batters lean in on a curveball in order to get the hbp.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:13 pm to
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It's the first time I've seen it actually enforced so far this season but I don't get it. Why is the onus on the batter to avoid the pitch rather than on the pitcher to, you know, not hit the guy batting?


its mostly meant to stop dudes who crowd the frick out of the plate and leave their arms hanging out real far.

its not really supposed to be applied to a dude that gets tagged square in the back.

at least that was the way I heard it explained on the radio some time back.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:20 pm to
Couldn't possibly be the icon. It's not like we memorize there thousands of lsu fans here
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46420 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:48 pm to
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I think he thinks I'm a Florida State fan for some reason.


Mistook you for The Ocean.

You nautical themed, FSU-icon wearing motherfricker you.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:52 pm to
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its mostly meant to stop dudes who crowd the frick out of the plate and leave their arms hanging out real far.


Which makes total sense. You'll have guys that'll lean waaaayyyy over the plate to draw a HBP.

quote:

its not really supposed to be applied to a dude that gets tagged square in the back.


But naturally it will.

I do think enforcing it is the least they could do since the balls have been changed to the benefit of the hitters and can cause issues with control for pitchers at times.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:52 pm to
Yeah, it's a bullshite rule.
Posted by dawgM2
MS
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:54 pm to
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in my entire life of watching & playing baseball I have only seen it enforced at any level one time and in that one time it was very obvious the player was deliberately leaning over the plate.


It's already been enforced twice against us this season.
This post was edited on 2/24/15 at 5:55 pm
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:54 pm to
Has this not always been a rule? It has in MLB for a while correct?

But since it dis favored UGA lets change it
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:58 pm to
It's been a rule for as long as I can remember. I only recall it being enforced once in my lifetime as well and that was in a little league game where the pitcher was throwing with a damn near 10 foot arc and our batter just sat there and waited and waited and waited until the ball hit him.

At this level it's bullshite. Even leaning into it. Guys diving into the plate or crowding the plate? So what? By rule they're allowed to. If they lean out over the plate, call it a strike. Last I checked they can still do that.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:59 pm to
It's solely to stop guys crowding the plate or discourage leaning into the pitch. It's very subjective for the umpire to say a guy was trying to avoid the pitch or not. It is meant to discourage teams like aTm who lead the SEC in HBP with 17, from cheating their way to 1st base.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:01 pm to
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Has this not always been a rule? It has in MLB for a while correct? But since it dis favored UGA lets change it


It is a rule in the MLB, but is rarely (if ever) called unless you lean into the pitch, or it hits you inside the strike zone. I'm guessing that they're trying to enforce it a little bit more than they ever have before, but it's just weird to see it called this new way.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46420 posts
Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:03 pm to
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But since it dis favored UGA lets change it


Shut up, Beaver.
Posted by 870Hog
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:04 pm to
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batter has to move to avoid being HBP


Wut? The entire time I played baseball I was coached to crowd the plate and to try to get hit.
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