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This is a Kennedy problem. Not a talent problem

Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:40 pm
We have some pretty talented players on our roster but they are just so poorly coached and have no fire under them. It's time for Kennedy to go.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:44 pm to
Just checked the score ... WOW
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:50 pm to
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10332 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:50 pm to
Never forget the Cutcliff to Orgeron death spiral.

Who can you definitely get who will definitely be better?
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10578 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:51 pm to
Ultimately, he's responsible for the talent level too but at least neither he nor his supporters can use the facilities argument now. Our new coach deserves the opportunity to open the new arena. Not AK, who has been supported beyond what he deserves to include Bjork's genius move of giving him a raise and extension.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

Never forget the Cutcliff to Orgeron death spiral.

Who can you definitely get who will definitely be better?


Michael White from La. Tech.

And we could get him too because he'd never have to coach a game in the Tad Pad
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:57 pm to
I pray they don't waste the new arena hype on AK. I'm all for taking risks with our basketball program.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:58 pm to
Mike White will end up some place like UNC just watch
Posted by Xfire
South Beach
Member since Dec 2014
395 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:01 pm to
Wow we have a game tonight? Shows how much I care about basketball now with coach clown at the helm.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:21 pm to
How come people keep saying Michael White? What exactly has he done that deserves to be given this gig besides be a Rebel player?

Also you have to look at MSU as well. We could fire the guy that is the all time winning coach and make the wrong hire and end up with the dumpster fire that is MSU basketball at this point.

I'm not a fan of being horrible. That being said Ole Miss has ZERO basketball history. Hiring a top notch coach would be tough. If you have the right guy, make that call. If you don't have anyone in mind, not sure if you can get that guy, or don't have the resources to get the guy you have to be careful.

To be honest basketball is a far third favorite sport of most fans anyway.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4654 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:48 pm to
quote:


To be honest basketball is a far third favorite sport of most fans anyway.


This is a big problem with basketball at ole miss. Not just that it's third but like you said a distant third. Fans don't show up until sec play. If we want a competitive team we need the fan support too.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 9:13 pm
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:08 pm to
Exactly. No support. Then fans get upset when the product isn't great. Kennedy has done as about as good of a job as ANYONE can do at Ole Miss.

I understand frustration, but replacing the guy is a HUGE gamble. No one wants to coach here. Why would they? No real fan support and the worst history of all SEC basketball schools in a state that doesn't produce the greatest of talent.
Posted by TMRebel
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2013
5398 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:24 pm to
I think the reason for this fan support is the fact that I don't want to show up when I don't know if they'll show up. In our NCAA tourney year, we had lines 3 hours before the game because we knew what we were about to see: a team that would give it all.

That ain't what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a team that fights when it's convenient. I have zero clue what product will be on the floor because we sleepwalk through games like no other. Why would I pay to see that?

Did yall have the same argument in 2011 for football?
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19451 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:29 pm to
Fire AK. Give Michael White the keys to the Pavilion.


It's a fresh start so to speak.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:35 pm to
Very well said. Sounds like a good nickname for this years team...

The Sleep Walkers.

They looked like shite against a simple press. Even though they came back the team is still hot garbage. they need to stop loafing around on offense for entire halves. And giving up uncontested shots. Coastal Carolina was shooting around 80% on threes in the first half. The second half they obviously attempted more defense thankfully.

I give Kennedy two more years, let him recruit in the new facility, and try to pull Malik Newman.. If he cant get back to the ncaa a couple times let him go.

Interesting stat during the game tonight.
Andy Kennedy has the 3 rd most wins in his first 7 years of any coach in the history of the sec...
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 12:16 am
Posted by RebelFreeze48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1963 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:38 pm to
Firing him would be a PR nightmare for Ole Miss.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:12 am to
quote:

I think the reason for this fan support is the fact that I don't want to show up when I don't know if they'll show up. In our NCAA tourney year, we had lines 3 hours before the game because we knew what we were about to see: a team that would give it all.


What games were you watching. That team was the exact same way this team is. They would win a big game and then lose a game they had no business losing. We lost to one of the worst MSU teams ever. Lost to Indiana St. We even lost to a very bad SC team and most people thought that lost would keep us out of the tournament which it would have if we didn't win the SEC tourney. As a matter of fact most thought we had no shot of making it going into the tourney because of the MSU lost late in the season.

People were lining up because we had Marshall Henderson. That team played hard. I think this team plays hard, the chemistry just isn't there yet. That 2012 team had several guys who had played together for a long time.

I think our fan base is funny at times. The answer to everything is to fire someone. Warner needs to be fired. Luke needs to be fired. Bianco needed to be fired, until he won. Kennedy gets fired every year by our fan base. Guy averages 20 wins a year at the worst job in the SEC in basketball and we want to fire him...
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:17 am to
quote:

If he cant get back to the ncaa a couple times let him go.

Interesting stat during the game tonight.
Andy Kennedy has the 3 rd most wins in his first 7 years of any coach in the history of the sec...


How does these two sentences together make ANY sense?
Posted by HailFreezusOver
Oxford
Member since Sep 2014
6223 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:34 am to
The first statement was my personal opinion.

The second was an intersting fact about our coach that sheds positive light on his coaching tenure Ole Miss.

quote:

How does these two sentences together make ANY sense?


How does your sentence make ANY sense?


quote:

How do these two sentences together make ANY sense?
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 12:35 am
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 5:48 am to
Thanks for the grammar lesson it was well needed. That being said your personal opinion sounds extremely stupid when you type the sentence you did right underneath it.
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