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Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:05 pm
1. Abortion....

A. Should always be legal

B. Should be legal up until or around the 20th week (no late term abortions)

C. Should only be legal in case of rape or if birth could endanger the mother

D. Should never be legal



2. Life begins...

A. At Birth

B. Somewhere in the third trimester

C. Somewhere in the second trimester

D. Before 5 weeks of pregnancy have passed

E. At conception

F. At erection



3. People who disagree with my opinion on abortion are...

A. Fine, we just see things differently

B. Satan worshiping Communist baby haters

C. Over-imposing Christian Fundamentalist Fascists
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:17 pm to
1. Abortion

A. Should always be legal

B. Should be retroactive in many cases


2. Life began

A. 3.8 billion years ago

B. Can end but cannot begin


3. People who disagree with my opinion on abortion are...

A. Nobel laureates
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:20 pm to
Abortion ubiquitously accepted before viability unless extreme circumstances are present.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 7:21 pm
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:22 pm to
What is viability?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24572 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:23 pm to
B
B
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Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24572 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:25 pm to
Also when Christians use the "god hates abortions", and then makes exceptions for rape, incest and ectopic pregnancies, the argument falls on its face.


If god didn't think abortions were something humans should ever do, he wouldn't allow a world where women are even put in that situation. It's retarded.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:31 pm to
1. Abortion....

C. Should only be legal in case of medical necessity. If we decide abortion is morally reprehensible, making an exception for rape is intellectually dishonest.

2. Life begins...

C. Somewhere in the second trimester. This is when higher level frontal lobe function begins developing (essentially what makes us "human"), as well as the earliest point at which a fetus is viable outside the womb (around 24 weeks).

3. People who disagree with my opinion on abortion are...

Q. Depends on what their position is. I generally question the character of people ok with late-term abortion, and I question the knowledge of people who believe life begins at conception.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

If god didn't think abortions were something humans should ever do, he wouldn't allow a world where women are even put in that situation. It's retarded.


That is quite possibly the most asinine thing I have ever read.

If this was trollbait, I'm guilty of biting. Wow.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:33 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Also when Christians use the "god hates abortions", and then makes exceptions for rape, incest and ectopic pregnancies, the argument falls on its face.


While I agree in the case of rape and incest, the ectopic pregnancy argument is logically sound. If the pregnancy is allowed to continue, there is a high probability both mother and child die. When the only choices are two deaths vs one, then you are forced to go with the option that saves a life.

quote:

If god didn't think abortions were something humans should ever do, he wouldn't allow a world where women are even put in that situation. It's retarded.


This is just a fancy way of asking "why does God allow bad things to happen" and it's a poor argument against him.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:36 pm to
Alright, is this g2b an abortion or a religion thread? We risk spreading ourselves too thin to have a proper row by tryna tackle both simultaneously
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

What is viability?


23-24 weeks with very aggressive and high quality care, 28-30 weeks without any hospital care.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:37 pm to
It's whatever you want it to be buddy.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:39 pm to
What if Mary wasn't the first women God immaculately impregnated and he had just cosmically aborted all the prior ones because he couldn't handle the commitment.

Try that one on for size OTB.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:40 pm to
Oh now this has much scope for discussion. I might need popcorn....
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:42 pm to
Didn't God technically commit adultery? Coveting Joseph's girl and all...
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:43 pm to
I wish God would abort our football team
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Didn't God technically commit adultery?


They wasn't married yeah brah. Joseph hadn't tapped that yet.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Didn't God technically commit adultery? Coveting Joseph's girl and all...


And we know what to do with adulterers.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

1. Abortion....



E. Should be legal any time up until a the time of viability and in any case of incest, rape, and danger to the mother.

quote:

2. Life begins...


C. Somewhere in the second trimester

More specifically, when the fetus can live outside of it's host body.

quote:

3. People who disagree with my opinion on abortion are...


D. Any combination of the three options.
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