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Peyton vs. Eli "in the clutch"

Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:10 am
Posted by Rebellious
Member since Dec 2013
198 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:10 am
Amazing how Eli seems to rise to the occasion in pressure situations when all the marbles are on the table.....whereas Peyton does just the opposite, as we saw again yesterday.....even though they grew up in the same household with the same parents.....and went to the same high school and played for the same coach

Hard to explain.

And I don't see how anybody cannot see a pattern with Peyton at this point--he could not beat Florida in college to save his life and the year after he left, an inferior quarterback took UT to a national championship....and now he cannot win a Super Bowl to save his life.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:13 am to
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.....even though they grew up in the same household with the same parents.....and went to the same high school and played for the same coach


What does any of that have to do with how they perform while playing football?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:14 am to
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he cannot win a Super Bowl to save his life.


Er...you do know he did win one, right? Won the MVP and all that?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:15 am to
My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc are not.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 10:18 am
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:17 am to
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Peyton is too smart for his own good.


My thoughts as well. He's like the student that way over prepares for a test.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18911 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:18 am to
quote:

My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Bees, Rodgers, etc are not.


Bingo
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:18 am to
I think what was lacking was Offensive line pass blocking
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:19 am to
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What does any of that have to do with how they perform while playing football?


Very similar to the epidemic LSU fan/ Saban obsession, the Ole Miss "we're still mad Peyton went to Tennessee so Eli is better" sickness runs very deep in a few Ole Miss homers..
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:20 am to
You're god damn right it does
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:21 am to
And I would be mad too.
Posted by Rebellious
Member since Dec 2013
198 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Bees, Rodgers, etc are not
.

That's actually an interesting point. Peyton is like an emotion-less machine. A computer.

That said, Eli has never really been a rah-rah guy, either. Both are kind of restrained emotionally....which I attribute to their upbringing (to answer the question posed by the Dawg above)....although Eli is less so. Maybe comes from the fact that Eli has always been closer to his mother, whereas Peyton has always been closer to his dad.

Hard to say.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

My oversimplified view: Peyton is too smart for his own good. It's too cerebral, not enough emotional. You can't be purely X's and O's. You gotta have some fire, some grit. It's intangible, but Peyton is lacking. Eli, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc are not


I don't know...I can't say I fully agree with that. When Peyton was obliterating record books this season nobody said "I don't know how he's doing this, he's being way too cerebral". He had a bad game so people want to find some odd excuses. Fact of the matter is that in addition to his OL, defense, and ST all sucking, he just had a poor game. Happens to everyone.

There is nothing wrong with peyson's fire or his Xs and Os smarts.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:23 am to
I guess one could argue that they are all pressure situations since you have to win the games to get to the show. Eli hasn't done that lately.

Peyton didn't play well, obviously. To me, that is an indicator of how good he is...slow down Peyton and win the game. It's something so simple that very few teams did this year. The Seahawks did just that, credit to them. Even in a game where he "choked", he still set a Super Bowl record as insignificant as it was. Not too shabby.

Maybe he's a choke artist, maybe not. Those Florida teams were simply better/more talented teams. So were a lot of teams that beat them when he was a Colt.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12655 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:23 am to
Eli seems like a better person, peyton not so much, so karma.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7373 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:24 am to
I think Seattle converted every 3rd down. It was like automatic conversion. Did they even punt once?

Denver D, OL, special team, receiver(fumble) didnt really help out either. Denver vomitted all over the field from start (safety) to finish.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19088 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:25 am to
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Peyton is like an emotion-less machine. A computer.

Only if a computer could get grumpy and yell at you if it feels you missed an assignment.

Peyton is plenty emotional enough, it's just not the kind of motivational emotion that a lot of QBs who are leaders have.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14104 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:26 am to
This may be true but Eli would have been embarrassed almost as bad yesterday. To have a chance against Seattle you must have a mobile qb, end of story.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:26 am to
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he just had a poor game. Happens to everyone
happens to him more than anyone else ever. His discrepancy between regular season performance and postseason performance is the biggest in sports history. He is the biggest choke artist in sports history, and that's quantifiable fact, not opinion.


When it happens over and over again all throughout his career, it's not a coincidence.

Peyton is the greatest technical quarterback of all time. But when the pressure mounts in the postseason, he usually crumbles. That's the way it is.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:26 am to
SEC Championships

Peyton 1, Eli 0
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 10:27 am to
It kinda stinks to compare bros, when their stats are night / day but the hero shits himself in the big game.. Dunno. Maybe Seattle's D is just that good?

Maybe the Peyton vs Brady AFC dominance made it hard to envision a SuperBowl loss?

Did big head get the big head? I think so.. He and the whole fricking squad and they made me look like a bafoon in the process.
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