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"Star ratings don't matter!" (Except they do...)

Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:14 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:14 am
Of the 32 players picked in the first round of the NFL Draft on Thursday night, this is how they all broke out coming out of high school (per 247 Sports):

5-stars: 7
4-stars: 15
3-stars: 9
2-stars: 0
Non-Ranked: 1

- 22 of 32 players picked in the first round were former blue-chippers.
- A 5-star recruit coming out of high school was nine times more likely to go in the first round than a 4-star recruit.
- A 5-star recruit coming out of high school was 85 times more likely to go in the first round than a 3-star recruit.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27753 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:17 am to
Yep. It’s so funny when people say recruiting rankings don’t matter.

Sure, there are some low ranked guys who turn out being really good and vice versa, but to deny that there is a correlation is insane
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
2891 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Non-Ranked: 1


Curious who this was. I'm guessing the DB from Toledo.
Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
2279 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:28 am to
That is what Auburn fans have said for years.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
2679 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:31 am to
Good data. Imo offensive linemen are the easiest to predict to the pros. Somebody like Latham and Amarius Mims have been first round picks since the frigging 11th grade. They're just too big and too purtty. It's been that way at Alabama for a while now and been that way at Georgia for the last 4 or 5 years.



Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
4022 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:30 am to
NFL loves traits. 6 of next years top 10 prospects are 5*’s. Other 4 were highly recruited 4*’s. Interesting enough, Prime has top two prospects in Hunter (no surprise) & Shedeur (early betting favorite on DraftKings to go #1). That’s going to help his recruiting for sure.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7349 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:31 am to
Id bet a coca cola that the number of 5 star recruits who do not get drafted is way less than 3 stars who do....even adjusted for the disparity in numbers between the 2. It is entirely possible that a 5 star will be a bust....happens all the time...but overall it does indeed matter. Really makes a difference in college football and overall program success. Still have to coach them up but it makes a difference
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
2110 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:16 pm to
Hey genius, you proved their point in your post. When people say that, they typically mean star ratings aren’t the end all be all.

Notice how there are more 3 stars and way more 4 stars than 5 stars in the NFL draft. Again, you’re proving their point.
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:34 pm to
Now do the rest of rest of the rounds.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5449 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:45 pm to
This implies that if you recruit/buy/sign 4 and 5 stars all you have to do is suit em up and let ‘em play and they’re an NFL lock. Clearly if you start with higher quality raw material you’ll generally get a better product, but you still have to build/develop it.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2838 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

22 of 32 players picked in the first round were former blue-chippers. - A 5-star recruit coming out of high school was nine times more likely to go in the first round than a 4-star recruit. - A 5-star recruit coming out of high school was 85 times more likely to go in the first round than a 3-star recruit.


I believe 2023 Washington, 2022 TCU, and 2010 Oregon are the only teams to make it to a national championship game that aren’t averaging a top 10 recruiting class in a 4 year cycle in the 21st century.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
8607 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:26 pm to
The're definitely not infalliable, OTOH, they're a pretty good gauge. The top recruiting classes are up there for a reason for the natty.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16170 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:09 pm to
Star rating are the margin of error. More 4 and 5 stars means more margin for error to be wrong in the evaluation.
Posted by FootsFanatic
Member since Aug 2021
1120 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:01 pm to
Nice post. Data is undeniable. And supports why these kids are ruining college football with NIL deals and annual transfers. I wonder if in a few years the data will be skewed as fewer 5 stars focus on self development versus NIL money deals.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18533 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:33 pm to
How do they do historically in the league? Do most of them end up having good careers or wash out?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

5-stars: 7


quote:

3-stars: 9


Looks like the diamonds outperformed the blue chips.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
1398 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:57 pm to
They honestly do, but the untold story is that matter way more to certain positions than others. Look at the all pro list last year, the defense was almost all former five/four star recruit, the offensive side was about 50 percent blue chip. The hit rate on blue chip dline men making the league is insanely high. Offensive line is the exact opposite.
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