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re: Can someone explain to me how you guys wound up without a stellar QB?
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:54 am to YStar
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:54 am to YStar
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This is why I hammered about Bill O'Brien for those years. We are reaping what he has sown.
Golding gets a lot of crap and rightfully so, but I still think the panic hire of BoB was the single worst decision that Saban has made since he got here. Retaining Golding for so long might be right there behind it, but BoB takes the crown. People from all over the country were questioning that hire at the time.
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Buchner... that is HIS guy who he brought from Notre Dame.
I’ve given Rees a pass so far because it’s so early but Buchner might’ve been the most inept QB I’ve ever seen take a snap at Alabama. That includes the day in 2003 when I sat in the stands in Athens and saw us get trounced with Brandon Avalos. It’s alarming that he’s Rees’ guy because on Saturday it looked like he had been pulled out of the stands and told to play QB.
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:45 am to SemperFiDawg
Alabama's problem is that Bill O'Brien inherited Jalen Milroe and knew Milroe wouldn't be his problem because BOB was riding Young's coattails back to the NFL.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:38 pm to SemperFiDawg
quote:can someone explain why I gotta see threads started by Georgia fans on the bama board?
Can someone explain to me how you guys wound up without a stellar QB
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:48 pm to narddogg81
In fairness I removed some other fans from here and people got mad.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:50 pm to CrimsonBoz
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In fairness I removed some other fans from here and people got mad.
For the record I have no issues with other fans posting or starting threads here as long as they are respectful such as SemperFiDawg. I was just curious on why so many of the opposing fans that do post here are UGA fans.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:37 pm to TideSaint
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Not trying to be a dick, but why did it take a walk-on QB to finally land Georgia a national championship?
No offense taken. If memory serves me (and that's not a given at my age) we had a couple of guys transfer out and that bumped Stetson to second behind JT Daniels. Daniels got hurt. Stetson stepped in and threw 5-6 TDs his first game and it kinda went from there.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:38 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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As an UGA fan, you should be familiar with the concept of highly-rated QBs failing to develop into productive collegiate players.
Yep. Been there. Done that.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:41 pm to slammer66
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On top of that when Alabama has a bunch of 1st round players at a position, we really can't sign top talent. Eventually those guys leave for the NFL and we are left with those guys. All the top guys see that we have no talent at that position and they sign with us. Our best QB by far is on the scout team.
Now THAT I can conceptualize.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:49 pm to cdur86
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Not knocking you personally SemperFiDawg or your post, but does anyone else find it unusual the amount of UGA posters that post on the Alabama board?
I get it. I don't post here often. When I do I show the utmost respect. I realize I'm a guest and will always conduct myself as such. I can't answer for the other Dawgs that post here, but Bama has always been my second favorite team in the SEC dating back to when Bear coached....and they always will be. I don't like where the program is at right now. It almost seems surreal. Just trying to understand how it happened to such a program that has been the standard bearer for how a program should be run for a decade and a half. That's all.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:52 pm to SemperFiDawg
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I don't like where the program is at right now. It almost seems surreal. Just trying to understand how it happened to such a program that has been the standard bearer for how a program should be run for a decade and a half. That's all.
For me personally I noticed it starting in 2017 when we started getting a lot more personal foul penalties called on our defense. It seems we have been more and more undisciplined since then. I know we won the national championsip in 2017 and 2020 but it just seems like our offense was so powerful those years and in between that it just masked our weaknesses in discipline on the defense.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 1:54 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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I can't imagine caring enough about another team to waste my time posting on their fricking message board.
Some men prefer blonds. Others brunettes. I never seen the point of not liking them all.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 2:00 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Alabama's problem is that Bill O'Brien inherited Jalen Milroe and knew Milroe wouldn't be his problem because BOB was riding Young's coattails back to the NFL.
I wondered about this: if BOB let things go, so to speak, because he had his sights set elsewhere. It would explain the QB AND the OL play.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:14 pm to SemperFiDawg
i'm not a qb whisperer by any imagination, not even in my dreams. but if you watch milroe's hs tape and compare it to the here and now, you're basically watching the same thing. actually i'm not sure his hs passing game wasn't better in hs. he hasnt progressed in 3 years. not saying he cant make that jump and miraculously be a good qb. but it aint looking good so far.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:27 pm to SemperFiDawg
It all falls on the head coach and his coaching choices...to me it started with Pruitt, when he left after 2 years for the TN head coach job, yes it was a very big step up, something every coach worth his weight strives to achieve, but I'm sure Saban warned him of the situation at TN and the pitfalls he would be inheriting and Pruitt jumped headfirst...then Saban was put between a rock/hard place with the next DC promotion/hire(can't recall his name) because he was a great recruiter who Saban didn't want to lose, but probably had showed promise as a coach to get the DC job, while also hiring Golding as linebacker coach, who got promoted mid year to DC because the first hire was shite...kept Golding sorry arse far to long cause he was tired of the coaching turnover.
Same thing on the offensive side of the ball with Kiffin inner child getting him shite canned after the Washington PO game, then Sark leaving in 20, taking Flood, Milwee, and another grad assistant(milroe was Sark qb after Maye decommit)...enter Bob and Marrone...Bob was decent but knew he was leaving after his 2 year commitment, Marrone just cashed checks for a year and set the Oline back 5 years...Saban did a weak hire in Kentucky online coach and now Rees, so Alabama is currently at the current clusterfrick of the offense its putting on the field.
Same thing on the offensive side of the ball with Kiffin inner child getting him shite canned after the Washington PO game, then Sark leaving in 20, taking Flood, Milwee, and another grad assistant(milroe was Sark qb after Maye decommit)...enter Bob and Marrone...Bob was decent but knew he was leaving after his 2 year commitment, Marrone just cashed checks for a year and set the Oline back 5 years...Saban did a weak hire in Kentucky online coach and now Rees, so Alabama is currently at the current clusterfrick of the offense its putting on the field.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 3:32 pm to SemperFiDawg
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I wondered about this: if BOB let things go, so to speak, because he had his sights set elsewhere. It would explain the QB AND the OL play.
BOB and Marrone were two of the worst hires of the Saban era
Posted on 9/21/23 at 5:12 pm to FairhopeTider
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Golding gets a lot of crap and rightfully so, but I still think the panic hire of BoB was the single worst decision that Saban has made since he got here. Retaining Golding for so long might be right there behind it, but BoB takes the crown. People from all over the country were questioning that hire at the time.
I agree completely.
Having both of them just ride the Ferrari Saban built into the ground has been horrible to witness as well.
Saban gave both every opportunity and it was so obvious they either lack the capacity (Golding, BOB) and/or the will (BOB!) to get the job done.
Just pray Rees isn't another BOB.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:06 pm to SemperFiDawg
Yeah, frick off.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:24 pm to YStar
quote:To this point Rees has made O'Brien look like Sarkisian. Hopefully, there have been extenuating circumstances that have now disappeared, but Rees has been bad. Hopefully, he will tailor the offense to JM's strengths. In his defense, when the OL is this bad it's very difficult for the OC. We also know that JM's skillset does not fit the offense Alabama prefers to run, but Rees has done nothing discernable to address either issue. It's been ugly, boring and ineffective except for JM's long ball.
Just pray Rees isn't another BOB.
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:48 pm to tattoo
I am not enamored with Rees but he has an opportunity to demonstrate improvement during a season…and he has plenty of room for it. I’ll form my opinion of him as the season progresses. A good OC will mitigate some of the problems with craftier playcalling. He’s likely not turning Milroe into the next Caleb Williams or making this OL into the 2012 group, but good OCs can manufacture offense.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 9/21/23 at 6:57 pm to Diego Ricardo
I just pray he can shake that Midwestern B1G style off and embrace a fast paced RPO and misdirection type of playcalling system. We have the plays, he just needs to add some adjustments, movements/shifts before the snap, etc.
Milroe isn't good enough to just drop back unless he's automatically throwing deep to a predetermined side or WR.
Just play to his strengths of speed and a good deep ball. Use roll outs to get him on the edge when we can't block the ends and draws to kill them up the middle when they try to pin their ears back.
That and pray Milroe doesn't stare at one side too long
Milroe isn't good enough to just drop back unless he's automatically throwing deep to a predetermined side or WR.
Just play to his strengths of speed and a good deep ball. Use roll outs to get him on the edge when we can't block the ends and draws to kill them up the middle when they try to pin their ears back.
That and pray Milroe doesn't stare at one side too long
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