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Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

What if we are all wrong and it is a cube?

What if you are in a coma and this entire existence, potentially flat earth and all, is just in your head?

If so, why the frick did you create some of these weirdos here?
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8157 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

If so, why the frick did you create some of these weirdos here?


Chemical experimentation during college most likely.

On a serious note though, what do the Kelce brothers think about the most important issue facing us today? The mysterious staircases people keep finding in forests.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:51 pm to
You're completely proving my point though, as you can tell a lot about the shape of your surface based on the context of what's above it.

If you want to talk about terrestrial measurement we could discuss reciprocal zenith angles showing that down is converging, and that up is radially diverging.

Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

If you want to talk about terrestrial measurement we could discuss reciprocal zenith angles showing that down is converging, and that up is radially diverging.

Yes please go ahead

Diagrams will help if you can provide some
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:17 pm to
I'm going to assume you're familiar with them.

We have 2 theodolites greater than one mile apart. We set them plumb at each location. Then we go to one of them. From here we measure from straight up, down to the 2nd theodolite and record that angle. We then go to 2nd teodolite and do the same back to the first.

We sum those angles. Now this measurement does not assume a shape, so we cannot be begging the question of the shape of the surface. We just need to know basic geometry.

Which means that no matter what the altitude difference is between the 2 stations that a flat earth would make it to where the sum of these angles would be 180. If the Earth were concave, then it would be less than 180 degrees.

But the Earth always measures greater than 180 degrees using this measurement, at all locations and this is not direction dependent. Meaning that the shape of the earth can only be roughly spherical.

Addendum: don't forget the average condition of the atmosphere favors light to bend down on average, which would not create an illusion of downward curve but rather make a flat earth look concave.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:06 pm to
I just love empirical evidence. Now I understand all those lunar eclipses.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16309 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:19 pm to
Evidence that the NFL needs to take further steps to combat CTE.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8157 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:20 pm to
For the record, RTRnFlorida is a very suspicious new poster. Also for the record, anyone who references what the Kelce brothers think or say should be beaten with a pillowcase full of Kelce bobblehead dolls.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:23 pm to
I'm guessing he's running that argument by a flerf discord.
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:27 pm to
What is wrong with you.

I asked politely for diagrams, you just gave me a wall of geometry .

You have to realize that I took geometry in TENTH GRADE which was the 1987-88 school year

frick

M,
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:39 pm to
It's easy enough to understand, I'm sorry I made the assumption you were geometrically literate. I'll draw you some pictures on paint later tonight. I'm surprised you don't seem to have investigated the legitimacy of a flat earth, since you hold that position.
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

since you hold that position.

Why do you say that.
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:43 pm to
fricking shite they move this to OT
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:44 pm to
You implied that with a typical response that flat earthers give. Please don't tell me you're a Bevite and are going to pull the whole "Earth isn't flat, it's got mountainsand valleys" crap.

If I'm wrong though I'd love to hear what your position on the shape of the earth is.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Bevite

LOL no dude I only get on women and my wife is a women
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

If I'm wrong though I'd love to hear what your position on the shape of the earth is.

Everything pretty much I have heard is that it is sphere. like a ball
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:50 pm
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:50 pm to
You accidentally made an actual flat earther argument and I mistook you for one. My bad.
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:52 pm to
It’s cool we are now rant alliance and friends.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1413 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:01 pm to
This stuff is hilarious. Ask a deep sea mariner about great circle navigation and why it's used. Ask if ships transit East to West on a straight course or a course that requires constant arc adjustments over distance. I've shown FE people in person using a ball and/or a disc and they never have an answer, ever.
Posted by Radio One
Garageland
Member since Sep 2023
1769 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:05 pm to
I believe this

Your name is HOGNUTZ and you sit around debating geography and navigation with people . Do you smoke a pipe and adjust your cravat while doing so.

LOL
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 6:06 pm
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