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re: It's time to restore all forfeited or vacated games.

Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:43 pm to
Big for bama
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4293 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:45 pm to
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Jesus - y'all cheated a lot lol


I was on both sides of the rivalry in the 70’s and 80’s. Both sides were constantly turning in the other side for even the smallest of infractions. Both sides were always under some minor or major punishment. The SEC finally put their foot down and handled all of the petty stuff on their own.

What kind of petty stuff? Well, recruits could get money reimbursed for gas on an official visit to a game. ~$10. One coach handed out the $10 and then went back to the office to do the paperwork. Nope. Violation. Paperwork first, then the $10. One school turned in the other for this violation, but was guilty of the same thing, so they both lost 2 scholarships. It was always one dumb thing after another.

NCAA: Did the MSU coach hand you $10 on the field?
Recruit: yes, sir.
NCAA: Did Ole Miss hand you $10 on the field?
Recruit: No, sir. They handed me $20.
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
1584 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:13 pm to
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I was on both sides of the rivalry in the 70’s and 80’s. Both sides were constantly turning in the other side for even the smallest of infractions. Both sides were always under some minor or major punishment. The SEC finally put their foot down and handled all of the petty stuff on their own.

What kind of petty stuff? Well, recruits could get money reimbursed for gas on an official visit to a game. ~$10. One coach handed out the $10 and then went back to the office to do the paperwork. Nope. Violation. Paperwork first, then the $10. One school turned in the other for this violation, but was guilty of the same thing, so they both lost 2 scholarships. It was always one dumb thing after another.

NCAA: Did the MSU coach hand you $10 on the field?
Recruit: yes, sir.
NCAA: Did Ole Miss hand you $10 on the field?
Recruit: No, sir. They handed me $20.
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I was on both sides of the rivalry in the 70’s and 80’s. Both sides were constantly turning in the other side for even the smallest of infractions. Both sides were always under some minor or major punishment. The SEC finally put their foot down and handled all of the petty stuff on their own.

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NCAA: Mr. Leo Lewis did Ole Miss give you $10K
Leo Lewis: Yes

Ncaa: Did any other school give you money
Leo Lewis: Yes MSU gave me $10k.

Ncaa: SOB
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8361 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Frick that, he covered up child rape


I doubt any of us will ever know exactly what happened. But it looks more like the AD and school president were the ones that actually covered it up. JoePa did at least pass the allegations along to them per protocol, and they decided to ignore them. The NCAA has already restored the wins they stripped from JoePa over the scandal.
Posted by TheFourHorsemen
Next door to Ric Flair
Member since Jul 2021
2275 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:25 pm to
Trying to change the past is unbiblical and a sin.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19866 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:29 pm to
SMU says hold my beer…
Posted by DBird
Member since Nov 2023
316 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:44 pm to
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Trying to change the past is unbiblical and a sin.


So is lying about beating up Auburn fans.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:45 pm to
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we just had a ruling that Reggie Bush can get his trophy back because pay for play should've been legal.


We did? A "ruling?"

The Heisman Trust just decided to do it.

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8361 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:09 pm to
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So is lying about beating up Auburn fans.


You are correct. Lying is wrong.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7310 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:27 pm to
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From what I understand Alabama would be around the 1000 win mark if we used on the field results.

From what I understand, Alabama would likely inflate their revised win mark to over 2,000 and claim another 50 national titles as a result.
Posted by Dwight Schrute Reb
2022 CWS National Champs
Member since Jul 2020
821 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:10 pm to
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I will start with Mississippi State it has been said that we have a losing record all time. This is actually false. It is 603-579-37 excluding the NCAA Forfeits from a discounted textbook for a player(yes that's the documented actual reason).


tell the entire story. After the NCAA ruled on the eligibility of the player, State got a ruling from a Mississippi Court that barred that NCAA decision and it backfired.

But, I have no issue with forfeited games being re-instated.
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4317 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:11 pm to
Ole Miss 65
State 49
Ties 6

That is the on the field series record. The vacated/forfeits need to be eliminated and just let the record be whatever has happened on the field.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5209 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:18 pm to
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Big for bama

I’ll take them.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90902 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:38 pm to
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Give Joe Pa his wins back


Diddling kids =\= paying players/special perks
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8361 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:50 pm to
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From what I understand, Alabama would likely inflate their revised win mark to over 2,000 and claim another 50 national titles as a result


As long as it pisses you off, then I am all for it.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8605 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:46 pm to
Since we're righting past wrongs, I'd like to submit that the national champion should have always been awarded after bowl games and thus Arkansas should be the 1965 AP recipient.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5864 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:59 am to
Somehow, aggy will claim another championship out of this and put it on their stadium wall.
Posted by BulldogDX
Member since Mar 2011
906 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:02 am to
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No, he didn't


lol yes he did

Sandusky was BLATANT. There's no way Paterno didn't have some idea of what was going on.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19210 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:09 am to

1977 Kentucky football team are now Co-SEC Champions

1993 Auburn football team are now SEC Champions...since were undefeated including a win over Florida who won the SECCG
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9308 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:47 am to
With the current climate of CFB being the wild-west, it seems stupid to hold forfeits and vacated wins for stuff that is pretty commonplace now. let the on-field results speak for themselves. it makes a much cleaner record book. "oh your team won, but because of things that weren't legal then but are now encouraged, that win is a loss."
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