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Tom Herman

Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:03 pm
Someone educate me on this man. Some people are saying we might pursue him.





I'm still of the school of thought we need Richt in the AD, Kirby HC, Pruitt DC, and some fire arse OC.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7807 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:06 pm to
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Someone educate me on this man. Some people are saying we might pursue him.


Spread guy at Houston, formerly Ohio State under Urban Myer post Dan Mullen.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44841 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Someone educate me on this man. Some people are saying we might pursue him.


OSU OC in 2014 when their offense ran roughshod over some great defenses with a second string QB (Barrett) and then a third string QB (Jones) on their way to a national title. OSU offense hasn't been anywhere near as good this year, while Houston's offense took off like a rocket upon hiring him.

UGA has some skill players in place to run his offense (Michel, McKenzie and Godwin would thrive in it and Chubb would still be the hammer a la Ezekiel Elliott), but there isn't a QB in place to run it and Eason probably wouldn't come to UGA if Herman was the hire.
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
3344 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:08 pm to
Radi Tweet

Top assistant for Ohio State last year. Won awards. First year HC for Houston with 1 loss. Super young.

Sounds like a winner IMO.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:22 pm to
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Spread guy at Houston, formerly Ohio State under Urban Myer post Dan Mullen.



Would be one of my top choices. I want an offense that attracts duel-threat QB's which is the direction of football even in the NFL; in college see Deshawn Watson with #1 Clemson and in the pros Russell Wilson at Seattle and Cam Newton with Carolina.
Posted by BoogerSykes
Buckeye, AZ
Member since Sep 2012
1413 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:27 pm to
Meh...I wish we could keep the prostyle along with Spread concepts.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25664 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:29 pm to
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Super young.
40 years old...
Posted by HellRaisingDawg
Lake Park, Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
1585 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:46 pm to
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40 years old...


Hey motherfricker. It's the new 20.

Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:48 pm to
I think 40 is perfect
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18564 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:05 pm to
Lol, the NFL is not going dual threat. This season has proven that, cam newton being the exception.

I would prefer a creative pro-set just because I think it really works.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Would be one of my top choices. I want an offense that attracts duel-threat QB's which is the direction of football even in the NFL; in college see Deshawn Watson with #1 Clemson and in the pros Russell Wilson at Seattle and Cam Newton with Carolina.


Normally I agree with most of your psosts, but not this one. I do not believe dual threats are the next thing in the pros. IF they are super talented, teams will take a chance on them, but the pros will always prefer their QB's stay in the pocket and not run. It's simply too risky. Wilson has severely curbed his running with Seattle, and, to a lesser degree Newton with Carolina. The only reason Cam gets away with it is because he is 6'5" and 250LBS.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:24 pm to
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Someone educate me on this man.


You will be happy, lsu fan will be sad....
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7807 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:28 pm to
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The only reason Cam gets away with it is because he is 6'5" and 250LBS.


Their defense is the main reason they are undefeated.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49274 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:28 pm to
Apparently he was also recruited Atlanta players during his time at OSU
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:30 pm to
Yep, that was the area he was in charge in. That's huge to already be somewhat familiar with the recruiting hotbeds of the state. If we don't get Herman I will be disappointed.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:44 am to
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Normally I agree with most of your psosts, but not this one. I do not believe dual threats are the next thing in the pros. IF they are super talented, teams will take a chance on them, but the pros will always prefer their QB's stay in the pocket and not run. It's simply too risky. Wilson has severely curbed his running with Seattle, and, to a lesser degree Newton with Carolina. The only reason Cam gets away with it is because he is 6'5" and 250LBS.


This is spot on. If anything, the NFL is showing that they still prefer to have pocket passers who make quick reads and have quick release times. Extending plays through mobility/durability a la Big Ben, Brady (to some extent), etc. is huge, but ultimately being able to deliver the ball and avoid mistakes is critical. Kaepernick is already out at SF, Russell has been much more limited in his runs, and Cam is a once in a lifetime player who is built bigger than most LB's but has the ability to play QB, thus can afford to take a little more of a beating and even he has struggled in past seasons to stay healthy the duration of the season.

The point that seems to be missed here, is that "pro-style" has very little to do with succeeding in the NCAA. I'd much rather have an offense that works well in college than attempt to emulate the NFL with talent that doesn't equate. Outside of Alabama, most of the teams that have won a national title in the last 15-20 years are not running a strict pro-style offense, and even Alabama has incorporated elements of the zone read into their schemes. Ultimately, they have succeeded in evaluating and attracting top linemen (O & D), which has been instrumental in improving the overall quality of their teams. If the spread allows us to get more with less out of the OL, I'm all for it given that HS OL talent is largely difficult to assess and often times lacking outside of the top 3-5 guys anyways.

Herman seems like he'd be a dynamite hire, even if Eason is a no go. I have no doubt that he would have the ability to draw a highly talented kid to come run his offense given how he's shown the ability to develop QB talent.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 5:33 am to
Who's the other big name QB committed for 2017? Isn't he a more mobile guy?
Posted by Dawgs28
Member since Oct 2015
101 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:40 am to
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This is spot on. If anything, the NFL is showing that they still prefer to have pocket passers who make quick reads and have quick release times. Extending plays through mobility/durability a la Big Ben, Brady (to some extent), etc. is huge, but ultimately being able to deliver the ball and avoid mistakes is critical. Kaepernick is already out at SF, Russell has been much more limited in his runs, and Cam is a once in a lifetime player who is built bigger than most LB's but has the ability to play QB, thus can afford to take a little more of a beating and even he has struggled in past seasons to stay healthy the duration of the season.


Very much this. Right now the NFL is in a place where ever decent QB is a $100 million contract player. You don't want that guy taking a bunch of unnecessary hits.

As for college, I don't think it matters if you have a pro-style or spread type offense. Both have their merits and have proven successful.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 9:43 am
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:46 am to
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Normally I agree with most of your psosts, but not this one. I do not believe dual threats are the next thing in the pros. IF they are super talented, teams will take a chance on them, but the pros will always prefer their QB's stay in the pocket and not run. It's simply too risky. Wilson has severely curbed his running with Seattle, and, to a lesser degree Newton with Carolina. The only reason Cam gets away with it is because he is 6'5" and 250LBS.



Agree that the athletic QB in the pros is not about routinely running the QB but rather the potential for picking up yardage when it's there for the taking and extending plays as Wilson has done so often. It's a different game in the pros due to the advantage of roster continuity/development but I think more teams will be looking for athletic QB's like Wilson and Cam. Time will tell.
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