The fake punt thing again

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it appears to me that it was not a pass, but an option left with the punter as the pitch man.

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but..it wasn't. It was the same play we ran against bama in the '12 SECCG where the upback passes to the uncovered guy. It was just executed extremely poorly.

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Kirby already said it was a pass i thought.

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wasn't. It was the same play we ran against bama in the '12 SECCG where the upback passes to the uncovered guy. It was just executed extremely poorly.

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You sure? Looks like a different play there. The guy who caught it just ran straight and was open.

Thankfully the guy who had the ball is no longer here. There were other open routes and the one read and run was never going to get it.

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The problem is that in '12 they just stayed in their formation,

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Who threw the pass in '12?I'm thinking a TE...damn good throw.

I thought it was an option the first few times I watched it as well. I thought surely we would not try to pitch to our punter though........whatever it was it was stupid.

No he wasn't. He sold it like he was supposed to do. It was the same play design as 2012.

No because he had a linebacker over top. The route is a corner route against man coverage in that technique.

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Did swift run straight forward on his route?

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not necessarily but the play was already fricked at that point. Kirby said after that in all their scout work they noticed bama's punt safe lineup hadn't changed since he was there in 2012 (which honestly blows my mind that saban could overlook something like that). And you can see in both videos that they do line up the same way.

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2018


-In 2012 we have a TE which is normal for punt protector and the receiver is uncovered. WE snapped it with 16 seconds on the play clock for a gain and huge play.
-In the 2018 video, I'm not sure how much was on the clock when we lined up and got set, but the formation is the same for both us and them. It's not until there's 9 seconds left on the play clock that their LB points and moves his counterpart over to cover up swift. We then snap the ball with 8 seconds left. It didn't look like swift was running straight and it does look like our farthest right gunner was running a post that was open.

IMO the 2 biggest problems were first and foremost putting our 2nd string mobile QB at protector. Absolutely inexcusable. Secondly why wait til 8 seconds left? If you're gonna have the balls to call that play in that moment, run in from the sideline and line up and snap it.

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Fields was on the field because he is a passer by trade.

If I call a pass play from Justin Fields to Deandre Swift with man coverage by a linebacker... that is a mismatch and we should win the play.

You call it inexcusable. It is a simple toss and catch from a guy who should be pretty good at the toss.

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uhh, no. If this was a regular formation then yeah sure, it was a got damn PUNT! We never lined fields up in that position on a punt all season. Bama's 5 star athletes all over the field surely would recognize (which they did..) that having our backup QB at that spot was fishy. If we put Nauta there I contend it goes without a hitch.

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even against coverage, it should have been a win for 11 yards.

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what? Everyone was covered because they knew it was a fake. That's why you DON'T put fields in, if he's not in we have guys running free. The 2 links above, the same play form us against the same defense of them, are picture perfect examples of what to do and not do. One worked, one didn't, and there is really only one key fundamental difference in the two..