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Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by Go_Dawgs
Member since Nov 2012
913 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:21 pm to
Yes but not of a high enough PH to allow the consistent uptake of nicotine. Besides, saliva swallowed reduces PH by stomach acid. Even dip uses alkalinity for this purpose. The higher the PH the more free nicotine that is absorbed.

I'm not getting in a pissing contest, I was just offering the OP a different alternative that people don't know about.

Whether it's dip, Snus, ecigs, they are all better than smoking. They each present possible health issues so tobacco free is the best choice obviously.
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 7:07 pm to
What did indians put on the tobacco to add alkanoids?

Limestone?
Powdered otter teeth?
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:55 pm to
Started dipping freshman year of college stupidly to separate myself from my yankee classmates. Didn't get into it till I moved back down south cause all my roommates did it. Now I go through a can and a half a week so it could be worse I guess but I have to quit. I need to.

But jefferson nailed it because your brain convinces ya it makes activities better. Movies, a baseball game, a long drive. And outside of raw gums there are few signs of anything bad. That's what scares me so I need to buck up.
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1361 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:31 pm to
If you want to really quit use nicorette mini lozenges. Even the cheap Wal Mart brands worked for me. Just don't go halfway on it. I don't know about dipping but it helped me with smoking
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Go_Dawgs


i use the camel snus and love it...but it's different?....how?....not trying to be a dick just want to educate...the Frost is the shiz....i do 3-4 per day...
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 5:44 pm to
Day 6 with no tobacco, been over 20 years as a pack-a-day smoker.

Hope im not jinxing myself.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24022 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 5:45 pm to
takes 7 days to form a habit. you're almost there brother. keep it up.

Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25663 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Day 6 with no tobacco, been over 20 years as a pack-a-day smoker.

Hope im not jinxing myself.



I was 2 packs a day for 30 years, quit a little over 2 years ago...

Praying for ya... Seriously... Good Luck, It will be the best thing you've ever done for yourself personally & for your family, Godspeed...

This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 5:53 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 6:38 pm to
Wife quit 5 years ago, and to this day says she still occasionally craves one. Thats a little scary. Unlike a lot of people, i actually enjoyed smoking. The ritual of having a smoke. Something to do with your hands. An excuse to excuse yourself. Cigarettes as a prop in conversation, its like taking away Gandolph's staff, or a magician getting his cards taken away.

The first two days I did well, I Can Do This. I thought it would get easier. Day 4 and 5 have sucked.

The most embarrassing and self-hating thing about the last two days is that I have nothing to be pissed about, life is grand. If im bitter and pissed off for no reason, what happens when something worth getting pissed about happens?

Football season approaches.

Cigarretes were an excuse to excuse myself from the room when a punt got fumbled or a memo didnt get sent out to bat the ball down.

This season i guess ill just step outside and destroy lawn furniture. Maybe a new sunday morning schtick posting pics of what the nic'd out pissed off fans did to their own property the night before. Dogs would count as property in the states of alabama, florida, and tennessee.

Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 7:23 pm to
2 weeks in it gets better.
The misery passes if you let it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 7:35 pm to
I'm usuall pretty good January through August.
When the season starts I dip a can a game :/
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 9:40 pm to
yea, when I'm drunk in the stadium I dip like a fiend. Probably won't for Clemson though, it'll be so fuggin hot it won't be appealing at all. So I'll probably just dip pouches
Posted by bdv1974
Liberty, South Carolinananana
Member since Nov 2011
10593 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:01 am to
I quit cold turkey for 6 years. Then started back last year


quote:

Meaning The sudden and complete withdrawal from an addictive substance and/or the physiological effects of such a withdrawal. Also, predominantly in the U.S.A., plain speaking. Origin At this time of year, [January 2012] you have probably had enough of cold turkey. Nevertheless, here's another plateful. The term 'cold turkey' is now predominantly used as the name of the drug withdrawal process. Also, by extension, it is used to refer to any abrupt termination of something we are accustomed to. To find the origin of the term we need to delve into the annals of American speech. Let's talk turkey. Cold turkeyThe turkey looms large in the American psyche because of its link to early European colonists and is, as even Limies like me know, the centrepiece of the annual Thanksgiving meal. In the USA, and as far as I can tell nowhere else, 'plain speaking/getting down to business' is called 'talking cold turkey', which has been shortened in present day speech to just 'talking turkey'. This usage dates from the early part of the 20th century, as in this example from The Des Moines Daily News, May 1914: I've heard [Reverend Billy] Sunday give his 'Booze' sermon, and believe me that rascal can make tears flow out of a stone. And furthermore he talks "cold turkey". You know what I mean - calls a spade a spade. The English newspaper The Daily Express introduced the phrase to an English audience in a January 1928 edition: "She talked cold turkey about sex. 'Cold turkey' means plain truth in America." 'Talking cold turkey' meant no nonsense talking and its partner expression 'going cold turkey' meant no nonsense doing. To 'go cold turkey' was to get straight to the scene of the action - in at the deep end. What the turkey had to do with plain speaking, we just don't know. There are a few suggestions but none come supported with any evidence and are no more likely to explain the source of the expression any better than ones you could imagine for yourself - better just to admit, we just don't know. The earliest reference to 'cold turkey' in relation to drug withdrawal that I can find is from the Canadian newspaper The Daily Colonist, October 1921: "Perhaps the most pitiful figures who have appeared before Dr. Carleton Simon are those who voluntarily surrender themselves. When they go before him, they [drug addicts] are given what is called the 'cold turkey' treatment." In the state of drug withdrawal the addict's blood is directed to the internal organs, leaving the skin white and with goose bumps. It has been suggested that this is what is alluded to by 'cold turkey'. There's no evidence to support that view. For the source of 'cold turkey' we need look no further than the direct, no nonsense approach indicated by the earlier 'in at the deep end' meaning of the term.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/9/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

yea, when I'm drunk in the stadium I dip like a fiend. Probably won't for Clemson though, it'll be so fuggin hot it won't be appealing at all. So I'll probably just dip pouches


Even then I can't help but go for it. Granted I have refused to let myself use anything other than pouches because that's the one last step to full on loving it. But one game at the Ted of Sanford and I feel like I am not only letting myself down but America when I don't do it.

I feel bad but then I have a friend who actually swallows it and I think "well, shite, at least I'm not doing that."
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14180 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Unlike a lot of people, i actually enjoyed smoking. The ritual of having a smoke. Something to do with your hands. An excuse to excuse yourself. Cigarettes as a prop in conversation, its like taking away Gandolph's staff, or a magician getting his cards taken away.


That's the addiction talking... trust me as we all go through the same process as we purge our system of poison. "...I really enjoy smoking.....it makes me, me.......part of who I am..."

Its all bullshite....when I was all geeked up during the first 30 days I started wondering "is this what everyone feels like all the time? I don't like this....". Your mind is your enemy during this process. You'll be back to your normal deranged self soon enough and won't miss the smokes one bit....unless you're really drunk... and then its fleeting.

Update?
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:50 am
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I feel bad but then I have a friend who actually swallows it and I think "well, shite, at least I'm not doing that."


Friends dad used to swallow to hide it from his kids. Never understood how a human could do that.
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7403 posts
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:47 pm to
I have an uncle who was a high school ag teacher. He always told the boys they could do it in class as long as they didn't spit. I don't think many of them took him up on it.
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