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Posted on 4/8/15 at 2:25 pm to dawgdayafternoon
I think 05 (with DJ at QB obviously) could make a case.
03's defense was one of the best we've ever had, but man we had some offensive issues. For starters, our entirely new OL (all 5 starters) gave up 47 sacks. It's a wonder Greene didn't get killed. DG put up his worst passer rating of his career that year, and while he threw for 3300 yards, he only had 13 TDs and 11 Int. Our run game was spotty as well, as our leading rusher barely had 700 yards, while 2nd best didn't even crack 600.
As strictly a defense, yeah that team is up there. But I think our shaky offense (notably the OL) should leave this team in just "pretty good" territory instead of just missing the cut.
03's defense was one of the best we've ever had, but man we had some offensive issues. For starters, our entirely new OL (all 5 starters) gave up 47 sacks. It's a wonder Greene didn't get killed. DG put up his worst passer rating of his career that year, and while he threw for 3300 yards, he only had 13 TDs and 11 Int. Our run game was spotty as well, as our leading rusher barely had 700 yards, while 2nd best didn't even crack 600.
As strictly a defense, yeah that team is up there. But I think our shaky offense (notably the OL) should leave this team in just "pretty good" territory instead of just missing the cut.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 3:53 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's almost impossible to really nail down 1942 into a spot.
'42 also has to be evaluated in light of other things going on at the time that depleted many collegiate rosters.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 3:57 pm to WG_Dawg
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And again, in the biggest game of his life he was absolute dog shite.
Where's your pride, man. He was dawgshit.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 5:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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Most lists like this are pretty crappy
This^
Not starting a fight here but, this is so subjective as I could easily say the 2008 team was the best "talent wise" ever and make a compelling argument.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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I've seen plenty of film games he's played in
No you haven't...complete horseshoe.A total of maybe 3 games were televised and don't tell me you have game films.
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Those are bad statistics
Compared to who in the SEC?
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How bout how he stacks up nationally
So are you saying 80 was an aberration since he led the nation in efficiency in '81?I'm sure you have all the game films from that season as well.
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Have a soft spot for him
Don't GAS about the guy...think he's kind of a dumbass to be honest.
Look dude, I get it...maybe your Father or Uncle filled your head with this bullshite but please don't tell me about your expertease on things you barely witnessed or from 2nd hand information (which you clearly have)
Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:07 pm to WG_Dawg
We won the natty in 1980 so that's #1.
I'd put 2012 at second because our offense was probably the best ever and our D only fell a little short due to them not being able to stop the Bama big time power rushing game. If we had a total dominating defense then I'd be good with 2012 at #1.
2016 will be number #1 on Feb 1 2017. Jus sayin.....
I'd put 2012 at second because our offense was probably the best ever and our D only fell a little short due to them not being able to stop the Bama big time power rushing game. If we had a total dominating defense then I'd be good with 2012 at #1.
2016 will be number #1 on Feb 1 2017. Jus sayin.....
Posted on 4/9/15 at 7:50 am to RD Dawg
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No you haven't...complete horseshoe.A total of maybe 3 games were televised and don't tell me you have game films.
Well, I have a VHS of the natty from that year, and this may be shocking to you, but just in the last WEEK alone there have been TWO full televised games from that year that I DVR'd. So there's 3 complete games right there! I've also seen a smattering of 1980 highlight videos, of course which have buck in them.
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Those are bad statistics
Compared to who in the SEC?
Did you look at the stats I posted? They're bad just on the face of it. Good thing for buck the entire SEC was bad that year. Congrats on him winning 1st team all SEC I guess, basically he won the special olympics. He was the least bad QB and he was on the best team.
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o are you saying 80 was an aberration since he led the nation in efficiency in '81?
Idk how many times I have to explain to your dense self that I'm not talking about 1981, or any other year. I'm talking about one season only.
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maybe your Father or Uncle filled your head with this bull shite but please don't tell me about your expertease on things you barely witnessed or from 2nd hand information
Quite the opposite, my older family members love buck, for what I'm assuming is the same reason you do. They watched him live and remember us winning a title with him at QB so he is a legend by default. Then when I got older and started really diving into UGA football for real, I realized "hey wait a minute...this guy wasn't all that great".
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:04 am to WG_Dawg
2012 beats all of them by 2 TDs on a good day. They had the best offense by a mile and a good enough defense to get by on most days. When they were clicking, that offense was impossible to stop.
2002 was great but they kicked too many red zone FGs, as did a lot of the early Richt teams.
80 and 82 were a little too one dimensional. Even if that dimension is Herschel, there was no balance to that offense.
2002 was great but they kicked too many red zone FGs, as did a lot of the early Richt teams.
80 and 82 were a little too one dimensional. Even if that dimension is Herschel, there was no balance to that offense.
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:32 am to WG_Dawg
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Did you look at the stats I posted? They're bad just on the face of it.
Do me a favor skippy,go ahead and look at the stats for EVERY UGA QB in the 70's and 80's and get back to me...tell me who put up huge numbers in the Vince Dooley era in that time frame.
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Then when I got older and started really diving into UGA football
Yes,watching 3 whole games is really "diving into it"
Never once did I use the term "great" to desribe Belue but he was far from "average as hell" and "dawgshit" or the "most overrated player ever @ UGA"as you described on the rant...who the hell is overrating the guy anyway?Never once have I heard him mentioned as one of the all time great QB's in UGA history...
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:44 am to WG_Dawg
I keep reading that as SOS.
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:20 am to RD Dawg
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look at the stats for EVERY UGA QB in the 70's and 80's and get back to me...tell me who put up huge numbers in the Vince Dooley era in that time frame.
I don't believe I ever claimed that to be a good QB you had to throw for X amount of yards. I fully realize passing offenses were nothing at all then like they are now. My entire argument was simply that he's average. And I believe he is.
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Yes,watching 3 whole games is really "diving into it"
Jump to conclusions much? Did I ever state even once that I watched 3 games and that constitutes my personal history of learning about UGA football? No, I didn't.
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Never once did I use the term "great" to desribe Belue
Good.
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he was far from "average as hell"
I never saw anything from him to put him into "really good" territory
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"dawgshit"
I referenced one, single game with that phrase. And there is quite literally no possible way to say he was anything but in that one game.
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or the "most overrated player ever @ UGA"as you described on the rant.
Good Lord you struggle with reading. Please C&P that in here so the board can see. I know the exact post you're talking about, but I want you to link or quote it here for everyone so they can see how wrong you are.
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Never once have I heard him mentioned as one of the all time great QB's in UGA history...
Makes sense.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:11 am to WG_Dawg
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I don't believe I ever claimed that to be a good QB you had to throw for X amount of yards.
Huh you referenced his total yardadge and compared to his ranking nationally...so yea,you did.
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Did I ever state even once that I watched 3 games and that constitutes my personal history of learning about UGA football? No, I didn't.
Never said that but it's has been your personal reference point for the particular season we're talking about and player and your so called expertease on the matter...which is shite.
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never saw anything from him to put him into "really good" territory
Because you watched three FREAKIN games?!?!
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or the "most overrated player ever @ UGA"as you described on the rant.
It was close enough.
Like I said go back and look at the numbers for UGA QB's in the 70's and 80's if you really want SOME POINT of reference (of which you have none except for 3 games on DVD)Hell look at Matt Robinson's numbers (who went on to become an NFL starting QB) and compare him to Belue at UGA
You giving me your opinion of Buck Belue is like me giving an opinion of Fran Tarkenton's
playing day's @ UGA to someone who watched him play in person almost every game. I have no idea how good he was...I know his numbers were shite but I also know they won an SEC championship and he went on to have a great NFL career but I wouldn't know the first thing about his playing career at UGA beyond his numbers.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:46 pm to RD Dawg
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You giving me your opinion of Buck Belue is like me giving an opinion of Fran Tarkenton's
playing day's @ UGA to someone who watched him play in person almost every game. I have no idea how good he was...I know his numbers were shite but I also know they won an SEC championship
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl, and he was pretty much workmanlike-at-best. Middling talents can win titles on good teams.
Add in the fact that the game is very different now than then, and guys like Buck can probably best be summed up as "Good enough for their time." Which, to be fair, isn't a bad legacy. You can really only be compared with any accuracy to your peers, not to those who came well before or well after you.
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