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re: Richt is now the 2nd lowest paid HC in the SEC
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:11 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:11 am to Peter Buck
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quote:. The difference is, when Goff was coach, we hoped to make a Bowl Game at the beginning of the year. With Donnan, we looked on the schedule, and crossed out 2 or 3 sure losses and wondered if we would go 7-4 or 8-3.
Now we look at the schedule and try to figure out how missourri or South Carolina gets to Atlanta ahead of us.
I don't think Richt should be fired because we are as good as we have ever been. Comparing us to UT is nota good comparison because we are basically just like UT with the exception that they have a national title in the last 20 years. They have been to the SEC title game 5 times just like we have. They are going through a lean period after being on top of the world for at least one year and by all indications have turned the corner. Meanwhile we are heading inThe same
direction and have been the beneficiaries of an modern unprecedented era of both Florida and UT being less competitive than they traditionally have been. If UT hadn't been down for so long and UF hadn't also dropped off the radar the last 3 seasons I don't know that we aren't bragging on how good our new coach is going to be. Given the choice between a national title every 20 years and let's say 5 years of losing seasons compared to no titles in 34 years and at least a couple of losing seasons I don't know that we are any better off staying the course than UT
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On another note UGA probably won't sink into the UT swamp because we have MUCH better HS football than UT does. UT has to rely on recruiting outside of state and therefore needs a strong national reputation to remain competitive...something they have managed well over the years but they have always had some low levels. Barring a catastrophic Lane Kiffen type hire UGA will suffer a typical adjustment period when Richt leaves and will be competitive again in 2 seasons. Finally it has only been. 7 seasons since UT won the SEC East. We are going on our second season of not winning it and if we don't get better quick it is going to be awhile yet because it is asinine to think both UT and UF will be as bad as they have been recently....
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:59 am to germandawg
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Now we look at the schedule and try to figure out how missourri or South Carolina gets to Atlanta ahead of us.
And yet, we have somewhow managed to do it 2 out of the last 4 years. Somehow seems worse when you say it.
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Comparing us to UT is nota good comparison because we are basically just like UT with the exception that they have a national title in the last 20 years.
While true Tennessee has a Title that we do not own in the last 20 years, I don't recall us ever having as many consecutive down years as Tennessee has had.
People like to say we've only won the SEC once since 2005....true and regrettable. But only one other East team has won it since 2005 and that was Florida. They've only won it twice. Should we have done better? yes. We should have won it in 2012. Would we have liked to have done better? yes. We all would.
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UGA will suffer a typical adjustment period when Richt leaves and will be competitive again in 2 seasons.
Not sure I agree. If we hire anybody that is not as good as Richt we will suffer for much, much longer. The years we allow him to adjust. then the down years following. A lesser hire could send us into less than mediocrity for 10-12 years.
See Goff and Donnan. Our administration has shown us nothing to indicate they are willing to commit to a great hire. Shoot, even Florida is rolling the dice. McIlwaine SEEMS like a solid hire, but there is a HUGE difference in Colorado State and Forida.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:09 am to DawgsLife
At the end of the day, UGA football is about where the UGA AA/AD have the committment for it to be... it is very proficatble and competiitve. In any year, it could win it all with enough bounces. It also has an overall favorable opnion in the national media. The only real issue Richt has faced with job security has been the arrests and not beating UF enough early in his career.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:22 am to Peter Buck
Defense doesn't win championships, administrations do. The only hope I can see for UGA football is for the old guard of misers and scriveners to die off, and be replaced by folks who will willingly join the arms race that is the SEC.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:06 am to Peter Buck
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At the end of the day, UGA football is about where the UGA AA/AD have the committment for it to be... it is very proficatble and competiitve. In any year, it could win it all with enough bounces. It also has an overall favorable opnion in the national media. The only real issue Richt has faced with job security has been the arrests and not beating UF enough early in his career.
I honestly believe you hit the nail on the head. They look at it as a business. If it is making a good profit, then they are satisfied. One way to ensure a good profit is by keeping salaries/costs under control. One way to do this is by limiting ivestments in facilities, personnel (coaches and staff) etc.....yet they hav to keep a certainl amount of success to maintain interest and sell tickets. Do theyw ant to win? Yes, but only under certain conditions. Good profit to cost ratio. Whether we like it or not or agree with it or not, that is the reality. We can only hope that Richt, or whoever is our coach, can win with those constraints.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:11 am to VoxDawg
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Defense doesn't win championships, administrations do. The only hope I can see for UGA football is for the old guard of misers and scriveners to die off, and be replaced by folks who will willingly join the arms race that is the SEC.
While I understand what you are saying and I agree with it to a certain pont, I wouldn't necessarily call them misers. Businessmen, yes. There is an incredible amount of money that is put into the program. The willingness to pour more of the profit into the program is needed. It is hard to say why there is an unwillingness to do this. Other sports eating into the budget....perks higher ups are unwilling to give up...it's hard to say exactly. AND, there is always the outside chance that I and the other Richt boosters are wrong. maybe he is given the resources ecessary and he is simply incapable of turning the corner. We all have opinions.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:36 am to ohmdawg
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We are getting what we paidd for?
Pretty much and it's not just about the head football coach salary.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:54 am to davesdawgs
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We are getting what we paidd for?
Pretty much and it's not just about the head football coach salary.
Actually we are getting a bargain, Richt wise. Can anyone honestly say Richt is the second worst football coach in the SEC?
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That said...I think Richt has pretty lucrative endorsement deals....not sure if the figures account for that, or not. I seriously doubt he is he second lowest paid in anything other than salary.
This post was edited on 12/9/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:58 am to DawgsLife
I agree that the "2nd lowest paid SEC coach" narrative is only part of the story, since there's definitely the endorsement end of it all. What else does he hawk above F-150s?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:01 am to VoxDawg
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Can anyone honestly say Richt is the second worst football coach in the SEC?
There are certainly people here who honestly think that he is THE worst...maybe in the country
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What else does he hawk above F-150s?
Dunno what is included in this figure, but USA Today says he receives $114k in "other pay"
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Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:37 am to VoxDawg
Nike is one, but I am not sure about the rest. Probably some local deals. he gets paid extra for doing his radio shows. I read about a lot of the stuff somewhere, and it is pretty extensvive. He makes really good money in endorsements. POSSIBLY more than his salary.(But don't quote me on that)
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:39 am to UGAalum08
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Dunno what is included in this figure, but USA Today says he receives $114k in "other pay"
My guess that would be his pay for radio/television programs. Probably does not include endorsements....again, that is a guess.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:52 am to K9
quote:We pay for what we get?
How does this make you feel?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 12:23 pm to Peter Buck
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At the end of the day, UGA football is about where the UGA AA/AD have the committment for it to be... it is very proficatble and competiitve.
These are the key points. As long as the money keeps rolling in and UGA remains competitive, our admins are happy. CMR is great for public relations for our university. As such I'm pretty sure Mark will remain our HC as long as he wants to be. I fully expect Richt to retire from football coaching at UGA.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:15 pm to davesdawgs
Who has done more than Richt besides Miles and Saban?
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