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My favorite Georgia B-ball coach was Harrick

Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:11 am
Posted by goodbuds
Augusta, Georgia
Member since May 2015
306 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:11 am
I think he was the best coach Georgia basketball ever had.

They ran him off for some stupid reason.

Letting basketball players take an easy course. Big deal.

At least they didn't rape anyone and try to cover it up.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:14 am to
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They ran him off for some stupid reason.

Go on....
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:15 am to
It might be a stretch to say he's the best we've ever had, but he's probably my favorite as well just due to timing. When I got to the age that I really started following the program it was when he was really getting us rocking, so I'll always have a soft spot there.

It's ludicrous how his whole situation went down. His son gave easy A classes to players and we paid some phone bills for players. Compare that to the DECADES worth of acadmeic fraud at UNC who hasn't even had a slap on the wrist and it's enough to make your blood boil. The biggest travesty in the whole thing isn't that he got ran out on a rail, it's that our shitty administration wouldn't let us play in the posteason his final year, which I contend is one of the 2 or 3 best teams we've ever put on the floor. That team was primed to make a serious run and they never even got the chance. Sickening.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46482 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:25 am to
What's infuriating about the whole ordeal is

1.) the whole grade scandal thing was about as overwrought and contrived a story as could be. In the grand scheme of things, it was a single question in a quiz in a single class about coaching basketball. It was a fricking elective, a throw away class. If it weren't basketball players involved, nobody would care (how many other classes in college did a professor put at least 1 "obvious" answer question on a test? Happened and still happens all the time).

2.) Adams was SO willing to fall on a sword that he all but made himself. He was the one that shoehorned Harrick into the coaching position despite evidence that he wasn't always going to play by the rules. It was almost as though Adams was waiting for shite to hit the fan so he could swoop in and snuff out the bad stuff in the name of academic purity and success
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:27 am to
And I mean, what was the point? I'm sure adams and dooley thought "hey if we pull our team as a show of goodwill, maybe the NCAA will take pity on us", as if that was logical. If we had let our team play in the postseason, I doubt anything woudl have been done that would have put our program on any worse footing than it ended up on anyway.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46482 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 10:31 am to
I honestly don't know what Dooleys part in all of it was other than to give the order so if anyone can remember his public thoughts on it is be interested to know.

As for Adams, he was all about findraising and improving the brand of the college (this is after all the main function of a college president) so the decision to hold the team put strikes me less as an appeasement measure for the NCAA and more a show of force for the big money donors that Adams was a man of action and was going to preserve te academic integrity that he had created for the university
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2861 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 1:43 pm to
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Letting basketball players take an easy course. Big deal.


Some players weren't even going to class and were given A's. He told players to lie during the investigation and there was money given to players/bills paid for them. I don't think he coached again except maybe some community college in California. Was a pretty big embarrassment to UGA.
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13240 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 1:57 pm to
I shouldn't call this statement stupid but it really is...
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:17 pm to
Your favorite coach is the one that destroyed our program? Before him recruits actually wanted to go to UGA and we were headed in the right direction. Now, well I've seen your basketball posts, I don't need to tell you where our program stands.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:28 pm to
Correction: The president destroyed the program.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Your favorite coach is the one that destroyed our program?


If you read the post, you would see that I supported my statement in a logical manner. People born in the 60s probably think Dooley is their favorite football coach, because they were coming of age when he got us good. People 40 and under would probably say Richt for the same reason. Is it so surprising that the best basketball I've seen us play in my lifetime was under Harrick so I'd have a natural affinity towards him?

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Before him recruits actually wanted to go to UGA


Really?

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we were headed in the right direction.


were we? Tubby had us rolling then left after 2 years. Then we had 2 years of jirsa and didn't do anything. We were "headed in the right direction" BECAUSE of harrick.

Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:09 pm to
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Some players weren't even going to class and were given A's. He told players to lie during the investigation and there was money given to players/bills paid for them. I don't think he coached again except maybe some community college in California. Was a pretty big embarrassment to UGA.



BINGO!!! It was a huge embarrassment to UGA, and we knew he was dirty before we ever hired him. That's why Dooley didn't want him. To try and claim we ran him off for no reason is laughable. UGA suffered jokes for years for that crap. I want UGA to be a great academic institution and I sure as hell don't want us to tolerate crap that would damage that reputation, all in the name of wins.

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I shouldn't call this statement stupid but it really is...


His comment is spot on. The fact that you care more about winning than the academic integrity of the University of Georgia is beside the point. Maybe you would prefer to go back to the Jan Kemp days. Harrick and his son were an embarrassment. Him being a good coach doesn't change that.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:13 pm to
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Is it so surprising that the best basketball I've seen us play in my lifetime was under Harrick so I'd have a natural affinity towards him?


It is if you care more about that than UGA and it's academic standing and reputation. Not saying you do but the op certainly seems to feel that way. Harrick was run off for a good reason, not a stupid one. I actually met Harrick twice at games, and he was one of the nicest guys ever. He still embarrassed the University.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 4:23 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6944 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:25 pm to
Hugh Durham. Took Georgia to our only NCAA final 4. 5 NCAA tourneys. 4 NITs. 5 time SEC Coach of the Year. Best basketball Georgia ever played was under Durham. In he 1983 Final Four year, Georgia beat UNC to make it to the Final 4. UNC had Michael Jordan, Sam Perkins. and Brad Daughtery.
Harrick? Seriously?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 4:50 pm to
Oh, I didn't realize president Adams was paying players' bills and his son was giving out free A's. Learn something everyday.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:04 pm to
Such infractions weren't gonna handicap the program as bad as Adams self imposed penalties did. He threw all of the kids under the bus by not letting the ones who had zero connection to the PE class continue on in the post season. Speaking of, PE classes are essentially free A's for all students at all universities. At its core, It was far from the academic embarrassment Adams made it out to be.
This post was edited on 2/12/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:05 pm to
Well, since it was just P.E., clearly Adams should have turned a blind eye to academic fraud.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:14 pm to
I don't think you need a fire hose for a small camp fire, do you? Adams used a fire hose and hurt innocents because of it.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 5:49 pm to
If you don't put the campfire out completely you need much more than hoses. You'll need tanker airplanes.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32856 posts
Posted on 2/12/17 at 6:05 pm to
A small camp fire doesn't need a fire hose to be put out properly.
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