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Maryland "interested" in Mel for HC vacancy.

Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:39 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:39 am
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That job is a freakin mess for anyone who takes it but I'm sure the Underarmour folks will throw some money at
'em.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:41 am to
When Kirby was asked why he didnt take a "smaller job" prior to being our coach, he said if you take the wrong first job it will be your last job. Maryland would be a tough place to win at imo. If I am Mel, i would hold out for something better like USC, Auburn or FSU.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 6:42 am to
I love Mel Tucker, but as long as it's Mel and not Dell, I'm good. I think McGhee and Pittman are the two on staff we absolutely cannot afford to lose.

Kirby runs that defense and he'll find his guy at D.C. if need be.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:02 am to
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Mel, i would hold out for something better like USC, Auburn or FSU.


Obviously much better jobs but I'm not sure Mel would be the choice for those places.He should take a hard look @ UNC if they can Fedora...not a bad job at all IMO.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:21 am to
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Kirby runs that defense and he'll find his guy at D.C. if need be.


I'm guessing it will be Glenn Schumann if Tucker leaves.
Posted by BigDaddyDawg
Washington D.C.
Member since Sep 2017
1328 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:16 pm to
Damon Evans trying to poach us eh?
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:35 pm to
We’ll hire Pruitt
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:46 pm to
Tuck has grown on me as well. It will come a day when he leaves. I just wonder will Kirby go young hotshot or an established guy like Bud Foster.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:14 pm to
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an established guy like Bud Foster.


Foster has had many, many chances to leave Va Tech and never has. I think Richt offered him a job the year Pruitt was hired and he said no. Foster even stayed on as VT DC after the coaching change. He isn't leaving.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:41 pm to
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Foster has had many, many chances to leave Va Tech and never has. I think Richt offered him a job the year Pruitt was hired and he said no. Foster even stayed on as VT DC after the coaching change. He isn't leaving.


This... There is a near zero percent chance that Foster ever goes anywhere... It would take something colossally bad happening at VaTech OR he would have to do something to get himself taken out of the role... at which point he'd be persona non grata anyways for any coaching opening we might have.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:44 pm to
Additionally, defensive minded head coaches aren't interested in guys that have their own system.

D.C. Under Kirby will always be a highly paid position coach/recruiter
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:44 pm to
Game has passed Foster by, college version of Dick Labuea.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:56 pm to
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Additionally, defensive minded head coaches aren't interested in guys that have their own system.

D.C. Under Kirby will always be a highly paid position coach/recruiter


Agreed. Now that Schumann has gotten a few years under his belt, he would seem most likely for the gig if Tucker were to leave, though I'd like one more year if possible with Tucker personally... I think Maryland is a *horrible* landing spot if you're Tucker.

As someone else mentioned, UNC... good spot. VERY winnable division. Fanbase that *wants* to be relevant. Decent in-state recruiting and good footprint with access into south carolina, north georgia, eastern tennessee, and Virginia.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:59 pm to
Yeah. I will say though, despite all the Maryland troubles, they are making a lot of investment.

I just left their campus today after a few meetings, and they are doing some major football facility upgrades that we got a sneak peak of. The whole university, from my limited perspective, seems to be willing to invest in football.

Under Armor also provides a lot (when not dealing with strip club expense report drama).
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Game has passed Foster by, college version of Dick Labuea.


Dick LeBeau's Pittsburgh defenses were nasty every year, including the final season before he retired.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Yeah. I will say though, despite all the Maryland troubles, they are making a lot of investment.

I just left their campus today after a few meetings, and they are doing some major football facility upgrades that we got a sneak peak of. The whole university, from my limited perspective, seems to be willing to invest in football.

Under Armor also provides a lot (when not dealing with strip club expense report drama).


Interesting to know... Just a terrible division to be in... Between Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, and Penn State, there is a better than average chance that at least 2 of those teams will be pretty good each year... at a minimum. I think the division is a little overhyped sometimes, but I'm not sure I see Maryland consistently competing with those programs? They barely competed in the ACC before they moved.
Posted by VADawg
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44830 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:40 pm to
Maryland has always had a bit of a sleeping giant feel to me. It's a Big Ten school in the DC/Baltimore area (which produces good HS talent). It is also close to Philadelphia/New Jersey and Virginia Beach, two other areas with very good HS talent. I've never understood why it is so hard to recruit there, despite the close proximity of talent.

The Nike stuff used to work for Oregon in recruiting. You'd think Maryland could use Under Armour to the same advantage.
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:43 pm to
To me, the best mid level power 5 jobs are ones that have above average resources and recruiting potential coupled with below average expectations.

If Maryland had a coach that didn't kill children and consistently got them to 8-4, I bet they would let him cash million dollar checks undisturbed for a while.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

I will say though, despite all the Maryland troubles, they are making a lot of investment.

I just left their campus today after a few meetings, and they are doing some major football facility upgrades that we got a sneak peak of. The whole university, from my limited perspective, seems to be willing to invest in football.



Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:59 pm to
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It's a Big Ten school in the DC/Baltimore area (which produces good HS talent).


No doubt a very underrated area.Bama grabs some blue chippers from there occasionally.

quote:

The Nike stuff used to work for Oregon in recruiting. You'd think Maryland could use Under Armour to the same advantage.


Not quite the same ballpark as Nike and Knight as far as $$ but Kevin Plank has pumped in $25 million plus into the program.

Always heard their stadium was in really bad shape...are they working on doing upgrades/improvements?
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