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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:03 pm to
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Ah yes, as mentioned above. That wasn't bobo's call. Now you're really just outing yourself as someone that doesn't know what they're talking about.


Where did you get this information because Kirby without calling his name outed Bobo on that call. He said possibly from the box he couldn’t see the exact yard line the ball was on and thought we were closer to the goal line. Beck had no time to check out of that call, that’s BS.

Beck is completing 74% of his passes, 1 interception that wasn’t really on him. I’m pretty sure at this point in his career he isn’t checking out of too many calls.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86522 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Where did you get this information


Kirby. Literally head coach kirby smart. If we're talking about the same play anyway.

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Beck is completing 74% of his passes, 1 interception that wasn’t really on him.


which is easy to do when you dont' ever throw it farther than 5 yards.
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:45 pm to
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hich is easy to do when you dont' ever throw it farther than 5 yards.


8.8 ypc ranks 3rd among all sec quarterbacks with at least 90 attempts, and 2hd in completion percentage.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24052 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:46 pm to
His average depth of target has to be between 1-3 yards.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34774 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Booboo

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64081 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:42 pm to
I have one, exactly one playcalling question that has me scratching my head.

It was right before the first missed field goal.

We were 3rd and goal, but from the 15ish yard line.

We run a tunnel screen.

That play, if successful, is an 8 yard play. Especially in the red zone when you can't stretch DB's vertically. When you have 15 yards to gain, that play call doesn't make sense.

The only thing I can think of is Bobo thought were were in 4th down territory, so called a 3rd down play that would get us closer, to make it more 4th and Manageable as they say. Then on 4th, Kirby vetoe'd him and said no, let's just try for 3. That's the only way that 3rd down play call makes sense.

I post this concern, not to be a cvnt, but because I want to be educated. I want to learn.

The missed FG wasn't Bobo's fault, it was just a cherry on top of the turd sundae of a call he just made on 3rd down.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25667 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:18 pm to
We did it on severalthird downs.

Third downs in key situations and we throw the ball at the line of scrimmage with unblocked defenders in front of the play. We were 0 for 3.

I understand that we don't trust our OL against a blitz, yet. But to choose not to have routes that reach the sticks is tough to swallow when it happens over and over and fails to convert.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24052 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:29 pm to
Yeah since we're saying that's an extension of the run game, we ran the ball on 3rd down with 5+ yards to go a lot yesterday.

And like you said, it not like we had a numbers advantage.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25667 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:09 pm to
I'm not picking these plays up presnap.
But post snap, a lot of them leave several unblocked defenders. I'm sure the film reviews (dawg central, film Don't Lie, and film guy) will cover some of what is going on in these 3rd downs.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64081 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:48 pm to
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But post snap, a lot of them leave several unblocked defenders. I'm sure the film reviews (dawg central, film Don't Lie, and film guy) will cover some of what is going on in these 3rd downs.


And every other analyst on staff of the rest of our opponents this year. I understand it all seemed to work in the second half but I'm not smart enough to know what changed because the playcalling looked the same. Maybe subtle blocking schemes changed, maybe SC's defense started to get tired, maybe it was the rain, maybe some lightbulbs went off in some UGA player skulls, I don't know. But I didn't see anything schematically different on UGA's offense from a playcalling perspective in the second. It just suddenly started working.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3915 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:18 pm to
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3) He's not Monken

But most of our mouthbreathing fans will only look at #3 and nothing else.


This. Right. Here.

I have a serious question for the Bobo haters. Most folks think Monken is the greatest OC our program has ever had. Assuming that to be true, EVERYBODY who followed him in the role would likely be a step down and maybe a large one (certainly a noticeable one).

My question is this- if our new OC was named Joe Smith, Billy Brown, or Willy Wonka and NOT Mike Bobo, would you be saying the things you're saying? Or would you be giving the man a chance to settle in to the role and make it his own? Is your hatred for Bobo irrational in any sort of way?
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:30 pm to
My problem with Bobo isn’t that I think he’s a bad OC. It’s at at times he makes some inexplicable calls. They’re real head scratchers for me.

I have a question for you, and would appreciate your honest answer.
Georgia had an opening for a OC after Monken left. If Bobo wasn’t a former player, a former coach at Georgia and friend of Kirby, do you think he would have been Kirby’s first choice to fill the position?
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3915 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:33 pm to
Yes. He was brought in to be the next OC after Monken left (which nearly happened after the '21 season).

It was always Kirby's plan to have Bobo as OC. Buster Faulkner was never going to get the job and that's why he left for Tech.

ETA: I just realized that I may not have answered the question. I do believe he'd have hired Bobo regardless of if they were boys or not. I also believe Bobo knows that he has a pretty short leash as OC under Kirby. Maybe not James Coley short, but it is short.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 8:39 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6947 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 9:50 pm to
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My problem with Bobo isn’t that I think he’s a bad OC. It’s at at times he makes some inexplicable calls. They’re real head scratchers for me.


Sometimes those plays work. When Monken called a weird play that went for big yards, did you or others think "Why did the idiot call that play?" Some of Bobos calls work. Some don't.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

I have one, exactly one playcalling question that has me scratching my head.

It was right before the first missed field goal.

We were 3rd and goal, but from the 15ish yard line.

We run a tunnel screen.

That play, if successful, is an 8 yard play. Especially in the red zone when you can't stretch DB's vertically. When you have 15 yards to gain, that play call doesn't make sense.

The only thing I can think of is Bobo thought were were in 4th down territory, so called a 3rd down play that would get us closer, to make it more 4th and Manageable as they say. Then on 4th, Kirby vetoe'd him and said no, let's just try for 3. That's the only way that 3rd down play call makes sense.

I post this concern, not to be a cvnt, but because I want to be educated. I want to learn.

The missed FG wasn't Bobo's fault, it was just a cherry on top of the turd sundae of a call he just made on 3rd down.


USC called the same play from the same spot and caught us in a blitz and in man and scored a TD. Granted they were holding, but still.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64081 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:19 pm to
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USC called the same play from the same spot and caught us in a blitz and in man and scored a TD. Granted they were holding, but still.


This answer doesn't satisfy me. I need more education and learning.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:29 pm to
Watch the game replay. It was their first score.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64081 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:33 pm to
Link me.
Posted by Biff Pocoroba
Member since Aug 2023
95 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:14 pm to
Mizzou and Kent St. say hello.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25667 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:30 pm to
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Link me.

He's right. We sent 5 (maybe not technically a blitz) and we were out leveraged on the screen.

Dan Jackson missed the tackle and they scored.

That said... we had a couple of 3rd down screens where we were out leveraged as an offense. I haven't done a rewatch yet. But it feels like we should not have kept that type of playcall on 3rd and long (8).
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