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re: 2015 UGA recruiting thread (commits, offers, etc)
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:43 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:43 am to DawgsLife
Of course you wouldn't recruit an athlete who runs a 6.8 40; however, a 4.7 isn't a determinant that a receiver is slow or can't get open.
The more determinant factors are revealed when you turn on the tape and see if the athlete is quick in short space, how well he uses his hands to break jams, how well he uses his feet on his releases. Perhaps the most important thing that separates one receiver from the next is how they get out of their breaks and how efficient their rounds are. 40 time is hardly a factor when you look at all of the variables that go into making a good receiver.
The more determinant factors are revealed when you turn on the tape and see if the athlete is quick in short space, how well he uses his hands to break jams, how well he uses his feet on his releases. Perhaps the most important thing that separates one receiver from the next is how they get out of their breaks and how efficient their rounds are. 40 time is hardly a factor when you look at all of the variables that go into making a good receiver.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:46 am to crispyUGA
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To be fair, most kids who are "clocked" now-days at at 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 are all done so by hand and it's wildly inaccurate. The same kids when timed with a laser end up in the 4.6-4.7 range, which is still considered NFL-type speed. Remember when everyone was going nuts years ago because Vance Cuff was timed at 4.2 and Cornelius Washington was 270 lbs and timed at 4.35? Yeah, hand timed. Washington was clocked around 4.6 at the combine (still freakishly fast for a dude that size).
I knew there was fudging when I played....didn't know (But I should have) that it still went on as prevelantly as it apprently does. Good to know. Years ago we used to add 2 tenths of a second to most times. Apprently we still should!
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:56 am to DawgsLife
Crispy nailed it. 4.5 40 time is still insanely fast. A lot of ppl over hype 40 times hence why ppl these days think that every kid runs a sub 4.4. Truth is there are probably only a dozen to two dozen kids in college that can run sub 4.4. Take Gurley for instance, guy is probably in that 4.44-4.52 range. But that is still fast, especially for a 230 lb guy. Shuttle times really matter more in football imo.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:03 am to history88
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Of course you wouldn't recruit an athlete who runs a 6.8 40; however, a 4.7 isn't a determinant that a receiver is slow or can't get open.
The more determinant factors are revealed when you turn on the tape and see if the athlete is quick in short space, how well he uses his hands to break jams, how well he uses his feet on his releases. Perhaps the most important thing that separates one receiver from the next is how they get out of their breaks and how efficient their rounds are. 40 time is hardly a factor when you look at all of the variables that go into making a good receiver.
Certainly, if the kid has all the other factors, speed can be somewhat overlooked. I guess I am a bit spoiled by having a a kid blow past a CB or S for a long TD.
However, if the kid is average or below average in speed, he BETTER have all the other intangibles. Hands and speed are two of the more important aspects of receiving. And I will give a kid a few extra points if he can actually block.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:04 am to Sanford&MunSon
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Shuttle times really matter more in football imo.
I agree if we are talking about front 7 on defense or OL...not sure about defensive backs and WRs, though.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:08 am to Sanford&MunSon
I don't think they intentionally fudge it. Hand time is just really inconsistent and the laser is maybe 2 tenths slower.
When hand timing they usually have two people timing each run and they go with the faster time of the two. Why would camps not give a kid who runs a consistent 4.6 a 4.5 and make them feel good. They want more clientele too.
When hand timing they usually have two people timing each run and they go with the faster time of the two. Why would camps not give a kid who runs a consistent 4.6 a 4.5 and make them feel good. They want more clientele too.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:11 am to history88
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I don't think they intentionally fudge it. Hand time is just really inconsistent and the laser is maybe 2 tenths slower.
When hand timing they usually have two people timing each run and they go with the faster time of the two. Why would camps not give a kid who runs a consistent 4.6 a 4.5 and make them feel good. They want more clientele too.
Camps may not...but coaches do. They fudge on times and weight....size.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:13 am to DawgsLife
Let's get back on track....
Looks like D'andre Walker is down between being a VFL or a Dawg.
Looks like D'andre Walker is down between being a VFL or a Dawg.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:13 am to Sanford&MunSon
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And for running backs.
Yes! DEFINITELY running backs. I always felt that coaches that discourage their kids from wrestling were making a HUGE mistake. Wrestling keeps kids in tip top shape, helps with strength and quickness. The two sports fit well together, but I have seen some coaches discourage their kdis from wrestlig. Crazy, IMO.
ETA
CRAP! I took us off rcruiting again. We should be talking about individuals. My bad.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 9:14 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:20 am to gatorhata9
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Looks like D'andre Walker is down between being a VFL or a Dawg.
Is he a NSD decision? We need this dude on board. He's a future first rounder IMO
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:30 am to GhostofCrowell
I know it's AJC( ) but it's interesting news...
2015 DB Dorian Walker has an official visit set up for UGA for next month(jan 30th)
6' 175lb DB that balled out for Mt. Paran at State Championships as a RB and DB.
2015 DB Dorian Walker has an official visit set up for UGA for next month(jan 30th)
6' 175lb DB that balled out for Mt. Paran at State Championships as a RB and DB.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:37 am to GhostofCrowell
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Is he a NSD decision? We need this dude on board. He's a future first rounder IMO
Potentially the Army game.
Both UGA and UT staffs think they're the top 2. He's planning to OV at UGA in January. He already used his UT OV. None of the HCs have used their in-home, which indicates that they don't think it'll be over even if he commits at the Army game.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:46 am to Crowknowsbest
Does anyone have any news about Jefferson other than Bobo was the last to visit him?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:54 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Speaking of..just saw where he said it's too close to call between UGA and OM. Smh kids these days. I'm going to assume that's where our interest in Cager has come from. Contingency in case Van flakes out to OM.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:54 am to Porter Osborne Jr
My check cleared.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:57 am to LedDawgK
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Speaking of..just saw where he said it's too close to call between UGA and OM. Smh kids these days. I'm going to assume that's where our interest in Cager has come from. Contingency in case Van flakes out to OM.
BS put out by Rivals, IMO. This is the time of year when paysites put out all this "it's really close, guys!!!!" BS about a number of recruits to gin up excitement for NSD which means more subscriptions. Dead period always signals the beginning of this shitshow. Start taking what the pay guys put out with a grain of salt.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:06 am to LedDawgK
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Cager
I read where Cager and Jefferson are really good friends and it was Jefferson recruiting Cager to UGA. That doesn't sound like a guy that will flip..
Or maybe he is flipping and knows there will be an open spot for Cager?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:16 am to tylerdurden24
I just signed up the other day at 247, get 30 days free, was gonna try it thru signing day...
After one week I'm already thinking about canceling before my trial is up in mid Jan...
I enjoy reading what, Rusty, Gentry & Jake write but the posters over there suck arse IMO. Boring as frick...
After one week I'm already thinking about canceling before my trial is up in mid Jan...
I enjoy reading what, Rusty, Gentry & Jake write but the posters over there suck arse IMO. Boring as frick...
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