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What if Slocum wasn't fired in 2002?
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:42 pm
I think we'd be better off today. Guy was just about to get the facilities he'd long been promised by Wally Groff.
He may have had a "rough" run from 2000-2002 but hasn't years like that been the norm since then? Lest us forget, the Ags finished in the top 25 every year from 1989 to 1999 except 1996. That includes 4 conference titles (excluding 1994 probation and 1997 south division title ).
He may have had a "rough" run from 2000-2002 but hasn't years like that been the norm since then? Lest us forget, the Ags finished in the top 25 every year from 1989 to 1999 except 1996. That includes 4 conference titles (excluding 1994 probation and 1997 south division title ).
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:58 pm to Mr. Elvert
Hindsight is 20/20.
We'd have found some other spectacular way to aggy it up
We'd have found some other spectacular way to aggy it up
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:05 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Don't think it would have mattered much, Mack would still be in Austin dunking on everybody for a decade
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:05 pm to Mr. Elvert
Bigger problem was choosing fran over urban meyer
Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:08 pm to WestCoastAg
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Bigger problem was choosing fran over urban meyer
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 6:28 pm to Mr. Elvert
We still would have gone 4-8 in 2003.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 7:57 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
We had major depth issues on defense in 2002. We had major LB issues in 2003. Sound familiar? I don't know if we would have done better than 4-8 as CGSC argues, but that campaign would not have been a success.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 8:00 pm to Slotback
We wouldn't have lost 77-0 to Oklahoma, but we were outclassed in each loss by a wide margin and almost lost to Utah as well.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:07 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I will always think that he could he done better than Fran did with Reggie. Plus we maybe could have gotten the best running back alive.
Great thread OP, I wanted to post it myself this offseason.
Great thread OP, I wanted to post it myself this offseason.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:07 am to Mr. Elvert
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I think we'd be better off today. Guy was just about to get the facilities he'd long been promised by Wally Groff.
Facilities wasn't the reason Slocum got passed up by Leach's Tech teams.
And when RC had tons of talent in the early 90s, he feasted on a weak SWC then crapped the bed in the bowl game against legit competition.
He would have been better than Fran, but he wouldn't be the coach today. He would only have lasted a year or two longer.
Slocum wasn't the right guy. It's just too bad Fran wasn't either.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:09 am to Mirthomatic
Did y'all forget who we played in 2003?
-Top 10 Virginia Tech
-Utah with Urban Meyer and Alex Smith (which we somehow won)
-Texas Tech near their zenith
-Top 10 Nebraska
-#1 Oklahoma with the Heisman Winner
-t.u. with Vince Young
-Pittsburgh with Larry Fitzgerald
-Top 15 Oklahoma State
-Missouri with Brad Smith
-Top 10 Virginia Tech
-Utah with Urban Meyer and Alex Smith (which we somehow won)
-Texas Tech near their zenith
-Top 10 Nebraska
-#1 Oklahoma with the Heisman Winner
-t.u. with Vince Young
-Pittsburgh with Larry Fitzgerald
-Top 15 Oklahoma State
-Missouri with Brad Smith
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:13 am to CGSC Lobotomy
It's easy to forget how good the Big 12 was back then. We tend to pick terrible times to be shitty at college football (OU/tu in 2000s, Bama/LSU now)
Posted on 11/28/16 at 11:09 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Did y'all forget who we played in 2003?
Yeah, 0-77 created a mental block around that year to hide from the pain.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:32 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Did y'all forget who we played in 2003?
-Top 10 Virginia Tech
-Utah with Urban Meyer and Alex Smith (which we somehow won)
-Texas Tech near their zenith
-Top 10 Nebraska
-#1 Oklahoma with the Heisman Winner
-t.u. with Vince Young
-Pittsburgh with Larry Fitzgerald
-Top 15 Oklahoma State
-Missouri with Brad Smith
That's really pretty incredible. Has anyone considered - and I'm going to get ridiculed and downvoted to oblivion for this - but has anyone considered that maybe Fran pre-A&M actually WAS a really good coach and not a fraud, but that he just walked into a woodchipper at A&M and the first year was so bad that he couldn't ever hope to shake it and recruit well enough to win?
The guy took over a team with no defensive talent whatsoever, had to play walk-ons, and go against one of the craziest schedules in college football history. He goes 4-8 and takes 77-0 as revenge from a super good OU squad. Once he had that stink on him, while having to recruit against Mack and Stoops at their peaks, he was already a dead man walking.
Did he actually always really suck and just pulled off a scam, or did that one season in 2003 blow his career?
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 8:44 pm to Cooter Davenport
I fricking hate Fran but he was far from the worst CFB coach ever. He was just extremely mediocre. We would have had endless four year periods of 6-6, 4-8, 7-5, 8-4 over and over.
Being a smug bitch and his offense of choice being awful to watch didn't help his cause.
Being a smug bitch and his offense of choice being awful to watch didn't help his cause.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 10:45 pm to Cooter Davenport
Fran recruited really well.
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