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What Did We Learn From The Chavis Experiment?

Posted on 12/12/16 at 5:59 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 5:59 pm
To me the most frustrating thing about the Chavis hire year two is I don't even know what our take away is. I don't mind being wrong about him if only we could understand WHY we were wrong.

Do we learn to give up on defense in Texas and make sure going forward all of our expectations (and money) is dumped on the offense? Do we need to put a tombstone for the wrecking crew next to the dead dogs?

Did we learn Chavis is a fraud that somehow lasted in the league an amazingly long time? Or maybe we got him right as he washed up?

Did we learn that we have a glass ceiling in recruiting until we get someone who can bring in big boys from outside Texas?

What did we learn?
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2986 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:04 pm to
I think we learned a couple of things:

1. He's mortal
2. It's difficult to field a good defense these days
3. Any defensive coordinator, good or bad, will struggle under a coach like Sumlin who uses a finesse offense
4. Our S&C program still has a way to go
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58054 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:06 pm to
We learned that depth is the end all be all in the SEC when it comes to defensive success. A ton of our defensive woes under both Chavis and Snyder are directly related to injuries that can't be overcome due to players not panning out and/or getting kicked out of school.
Posted by Howdyagssec
va beach
Member since Dec 2013
662 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:10 pm to
Injuries wrecked the starting 11. We don't have impact depth. IMO he's been addressing the front seven and our ability to stop the run through recruiting this term. He's added long DBs that fit his style.
We always talk about giving coaches time to get their guys in place. I feel like I saw progress this year. It wasn't a finished product, but it wasn't Mark Snyder either.
Posted by Howdyagssec
va beach
Member since Dec 2013
662 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:11 pm to
Claiborne still smarts
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
4368 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:18 pm to
Hopefully we learned to think twice when a coach reaching out to us.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

We learned that depth is the end all be all in the SEC when it comes to defensive success.


Well that is probably the worst lesson possible if true. I mean this team was the most talented team by the averaged recruiting rankings that A&M has had this millennium. After the 2014 class goes that average will take a jump downwards. This was as good as we had for a while.

If the answer really is that our best recruiting head coach in decades can't recruit well enough then the lesson might as well be "A&M fans need to lower their expectations about their program."
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:21 pm to
Yeah that is probably a good thing to learn.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60139 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

I feel like I saw progress this year.


Compared to last year I do not. Maybe that was personnel but regardless, we were worse on defense this year
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:27 pm to
I think the talent has something to do with it.

Not a single Power 5 team from Texas has a top 50 defense. That has to mean something.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80026 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:41 pm to
What did we learn?

We learned that Sumlin is poison to quality coordinators.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:04 pm to
Sumlin runs a country club and retirement home.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

What did we learn?


Not to hope for nice things.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:15 pm to
Damn TBird, that hit the head of the nail.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Do we need to put a tombstone for the wrecking crew next to the dead dogs? 


Leave the dead dogs alone before I start making Hank threads again.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55240 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:12 pm to
quote:


We learned that depth is the end all be all in the SEC when it comes to defensive success. A ton of our defensive woes under both Chavis and Snyder are directly related to injuries that can't be overcome due to players not panning out and/or getting kicked out of school.





RC nailed it.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:17 pm to
quote:


Leave the dead dogs alone


Said no Aggy ever
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2986 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

We learned that depth is the end all be all in the SEC when it comes to defensive success.

It's more than depth, you actually have to develop players and get them to play like hell raisers on Saturday. We had an entire 2 deep of experienced players along the DL, and I think it's fair to say half, if not more, disappeared for large parts of the season.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 8:37 pm
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:01 pm to
We learned good, proven coaching can't fix garbage Texas defense recruiting.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:18 pm to
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Texas defense recruiting.


Consol pussies = A&M pussies
Bryan Viking bad asses = Alabama Savages
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