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The football season in review according to "insider".

Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:40 pm
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Now that signing day is done it is time for as the Aggies Turn 2015. Some of this will be fact, some will be supposition, some will be rumors.

2015 started about as well as can be expected most people thought ASU would whip us pretty good. We dominated the game and were quite simply a more athletic and faster team.

However, there was some dissension in the ranks. By now everyone knows that Spav and Christensen did not get along. They had different ideas on the direction of the offense and despite the fact that technically Spav was DC’s boss DC would often dominate meetings. (according to players)

This in itself may not have been a problem, but players did not like nor did they respect DC they never bought into his style. This cost A&M Hudson. Hudson met DC and promptly decommitted.

The players did like if not necessarily respected Spav. This division would filter into the locker room. It was fairly obvious throughout the year that there was a Kyler vs. Kyle camp. DC wanted Kyler and made it very clear. Spav favored Allen.

The problem for the team is most players respected neither one. Allen was aloof and quiet and kind of awkward (according to players) simply put he didn’t command a room.

Kyler was not liked at all. He had a few core friends on the team, but the rest pretty much couldn’t stand his attitude and the fact that he was just not as good as he thought he was.

It was obvious over the next several games that something was not right with the offense. It was disjointed and had no direction. Most OCs use plays to set up more plays. The play calling lacked any cohesiveness. Before the MSU game Sumlin had a come to Jesus meeting with the staff. Get your crap together or else (according to AD personnel) Not surprisingly the MSU game was our most complete game of the season and showed what this team could have been.

However, Allen was dinged up at the end of the game. Coaches and trainers asked Allen if he could go and he said he was fine. Whether it was out of worry that he would lose his position or whatever he basically lied. Against Bama everyone could see that he was not right. By the time that Spav chose to make a change Kyler was in full pout mode and refused to go in the game and the very well documented cuss out session occurred. Players were furious (According to players). Any support Kyler had at large on the team evaporated that day.

Allen felt the attempt to put in Kyler was a breach of trust and started putting transfer feelers out. Players caught wind of this and the trust they had in Kyle evaporated. By the Ole Miss game players wanted Jake to take over Kyle was visibly hurt but would not admit it. Kyler was in effect suspended. Sumlin made a tactical error here by starting Kyle (My opinion). This is also where the Houston vs. Dallas rivalry reared its ugly head among the big cigars. The Dallas crew wanted to see a return on their “investment” and was pressuring Sumlin in a big way to start Kyler.(Rumor) Sumlin opens the competition and by numerous accounts Jake wins the competition hands down.(Seals-Jones tweet, players) Kyler is named the starter. Players are annoyed.(Players) Dallas BMAs pacified. South Carolina goes okay and maybe a glimmer of hope. However, players see near picks that were dropped. Western Carolina is a poor showing all the way around and Kyler has a crap game and blames it on the OL. (Players)

Auburn. Kyler packs it in.(Transfer imminent) Poor effort, takes a dive and pretends to get hurt.(According a player who saw him running around town after the game.) Sumlin fed up. Reopens QB competition. Kevin Murray goes apepoop.(AD contact)

Again Jake wins according to the players. Sumlin make a tactical error and starts Allen against Vandy(Personal opinion) Murray and poppa go into full meltdown mode (AD personnel). Allen has a good game, but get wind that Spav is gone. (Transfer imminent) Dallas BMAs furious.(AD personnel)

LSU- Kyle gets hurt Jake plays Kyler pouts and sits. Dallas BMAs start circulating rumors and feeding media about Sumlin’s future and the stories about how he has lost the program.(Rumors)

Houston BMA’s counter with feeds of their own countering and trying to make biggest Dallas BMA backer Sharp look bad. (Rumor)

Allen announces transfer. Players mildly surprised and largely apathetic. (Players)

Dallas BMAs lead by papa Murray make threats to cut Sumlin off if Kyler is not announced as starter. (Rumor)

Infamous meeting between Murray’s and Sumlin takes place where papa Murray makes a demand either to be apart of new OC search or be the new OC(AD personnel) Sumlin Basically tells papa to go pound sand. Dallas BMAs ramp up rhetoric.

Kyler takes a day to “think” about things. Teammates pack up his locker and leave it all outside the locker room. (Players and confirmed) Kyler burned to many bridges. Kyler announces transfer. Dallas BMAs go all in on smearing Sumlin. Stories start circulating about alcohol abuse. BMAs on Texags use the Zoo to spread rumors about player discontent.(Totally false by the way the players are very united especially after Kyler transfer.)

Sumlin targets Mazzone as his guy. Dallas Ags want to force Meachum on him and go behind Sumlin’s back to make contact. Sumlin contacts Meachum and lets him know the situation. Dallas BMAs go apepoop and feed the media again.


BMAs in Houston and Dallas apparently get into a pissing match on social media. Dallas BMAs want Sumlin out but can’t get buyout together without Houston or San Antonio BMA help. Neither is ready to make a move.

So unlike t.u. who despite wanting Strong gone banded together and did what was good for the program A&M splinters and completely hamstrings Sumlin’s recruiting efforts.

Two days before signing day the new AD has the media people put up the coaches on the AD website and DC is not on the list. He calls Sumlin and Sumlin has to deal with the fact that the AD released information without letting him talk to DC first.

There are rumors that the AD and Sumlin are not on the same page.(AD personnel)

Gentleman the left hand either doesn’t know what the right hand is doing right now or it is trying to cut it off.

The gilligans are currently out of control. This is why we will never get to where we should be.(Personal opinion)
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Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2620 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:03 pm to
I believe a lot of it, kinds of ties most of what we know for a fact and have guessed at together.

Side question: what the hell is that website and why have I never heard of it before? That has to be the smallest aggie online community of all of them.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:10 am to
Not knocking you for posting something that has already been linked here, but you might find interesting the discussion that's take place on it so far:

LINK
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21145 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 3:23 pm to
Internet opinions offered as "inside information." shite never gets old.

I'm not sure that it's wrong, but I think it's kind of pathetic when people don't have the nads to honestly offer their own personal opinions and have to hide behind some veil of "inside info."

Just say what you're thinking and don't be the drunk redneck at the end of the bar trying to impress everyone with insider knowledge.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 3:55 pm to
I've been silently observing Mr. Chill in his postings here, and he maintains consistency in his posts and I have yet to see him say something that was blatantly false. Most of what he says is plausible at the least. I (cautiously) take what he says with more than the grain of salt I give to most other so-called "insiders".
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 4:18 pm to
This is not "his" post
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21145 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 5:39 pm to
I'm not calling anybody here out on a personal level. I don't mean to be an anonymous Internet tough guy. I just don't get why some people try to pass off personal opinions or conventional wisdom as insider info.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 5:15 am to
Not my post, but I found this link on the OU board. A couple people were down on picking up Kyler Murray. They are hoping he won't be a cancer in the locker room, but they didn't have a choice. They lost their 2 of their 3 QBs (Knight and Thomas) last year too.
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 11:23 am to
Kyler is unfixable. I'm honestly surprised he went D1. There's no way coaches don't talk about that kind of shite.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 11:26 am to
I'll still be surprised if he ever steps on a football field again as I'm assuming he goes the baseball route.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/13/16 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

I'm honestly surprised he went D1. There's no way coaches don't talk about that kind of shite.


Yup.
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