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Remember The Alamo

Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:37 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 10:37 am
It fell 180 years ago today.

Here.



Remember the Alamo!

Remember Goliad!

¡Viva San Antonio!

GOD BLESS TEXAS!
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:02 pm to
Texas!

Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50211 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Remember Goliad!


Thanks, they often get forgotten.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 3:56 pm to
Who knows if he said any of that, but that's a damn good speech.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Who knows if he said any of that, but that's a damn good speech.


The famed "line in the sand" probably never happened either.

What is known is that Travis faced a no-win situation: either surrender (and probably get massacred by Santa Anna) or die. He chose to stay and fight, and managed to convince everyone else (with the possible exception of Moses Rose--there are questions as to whether he was even there) to join him.

What is also known is that the Alamo is a classic example of winning the battle, but losing the war. Had Santa Anna taken the Alamo in 13 hours instead of 13 days, likely the Texas Revolution comes to a crashing halt.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

the Alamo is a classic example of winning the battle, but losing the war. Had Santa Anna taken the Alamo in 13 hours instead of 13 days, likely the Texas Revolution comes to a crashing halt.




Indeed.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 1:40 pm to
If only those Tennesseans would not have gave up so soon.

Was it Austin who did not send troops or was it Houston?
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 1:41 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg03
Denver, CO
Member since Oct 2012
6114 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 2:38 pm to
Houston refused to send troops and basically gave the Alamo to Santa Anna by picking his battle elsewhere.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50211 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 2:43 pm to
Could Houston & Co have saved them? Or would we have lost the war in SA in that battle?

I have a hard time arguing with Houston's methods. He won the war with an inferior army.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/7/16 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Houston refused to send troops and basically gave the Alamo to Santa Anna by picking his battle elsewhere.



Which was a smart move. Mexico had enough troops in Texas to crush Houston's army, but they were divided after the San Antonio trying to chase down the Texicans:



If Houston would have gone all in on the Alamo we would be typing Spanish today.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Indeed.


Not so fast my friend.

Goliad was the hot story at the time, and why those in the Alamo knew surrender was futile, but over time history has reversed the fury and today we say remember the Alamo when back then it was remember Goliad. As the 400 at Goliad were massacred after surrendering it was a horrific global headline as barbarianism after the battle was over.

In the Spanish American War "Remember the Maine" was the battle cry then and remained the same to modern history.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50211 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 10:50 pm to
I've always heard both remember the Alamo and remember Goliad.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 6:15 am to
What are you talking about?

Nothing you said refuted anything with which I was concurring.
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