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Offseason Topic: Who wins and why?

Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:53 pm
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:53 pm
Will pose the question and give my opinion later.

Who wins in a hypothetical game between the '98 squad and the 2012 squad?

Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 4:56 pm to
Depends on if it's early Johnny or late season Johnny


Florida and LSU do not beat johnny late in the year in 2012
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 6/24/16 at 9:29 pm to
2012, by the end of the year they were the best team in the country.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50209 posts
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

2012, by the end of the year they were the best team in the country.


I fully agree with this.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:26 pm to
We would have throttled ND in the title game had we won either the Florida or LSU games.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/24/16 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

2012, by the end of the year they were the best team in the country.



This. No question.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2617 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 7:26 am to
Yep, 2012 team
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 2:31 pm to
I think Hill is still running.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79978 posts
Posted on 6/25/16 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Who wins in a hypothetical game between the '98 squad and the 2012 squad?


You forget a few things about the 1998 team:

1. How putrid the offense was.

2. Russell Bynum couldn't hit anything from beyond 40 yards.

3. The fact that we needed complete brain farts from the other team to beat Kansas (ball bouncing off a player's head on a punt), Missouri (another muffed punt deep in their territory), and Kansas State (epic 4th quarter collapse and a nickel badly out of position on the Parker TD)

4. Mike Hankwitz PREVENT defense late in games.
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
2022 posts
Posted on 6/26/16 at 1:49 pm to
I think the 2012 team would win as well. But it would be very close. The 98 team was built to run. Featuring Dante Hall and Jamar Toombs. Behind a decent offensive line. That was the weakness for the 2012 team. The 98 defense would have done pretty well against the 2012 offense. Defensive line of Bernard Edwards and Fleming would have plugged up the line pretty well. Linebackers Anthony, Holdman, Bradley and Nguyen are very good. That team also had a never die mentality and put themselves into position to make the most of the other team's mistakes.

Of course Johnny was other worldly and the 2012 defense was definitely good enough to stall the 98 offense. I think it would be an outstanding game. Probably along the lines of the 2012 LSU game with the 2012 Ags coming out on top.


ETA as far as kickers go, The place kickers is a wash at best for 2012. I mean that was the year of Bert derps. The punter was definitely a win for 98. That was still Shane Lechler.
This post was edited on 6/26/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 1:27 am to
watching dat chase johnny wouldnt be much different than the OU linebacker that got juked out of his shoes. teams back then couldnt handle eric fricking crouch.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:59 am to
2012

1998 was a plucky squad with luck. 2012 was a juggernaut from midesason on with a transcendent QB and a team mojo/chemistry that was off the charts. They embarrassed OU so badly that they had a hangover for a couple of years.
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