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Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:25 pm to finestfirst79
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:25 pm to finestfirst79
when did I do that?
All I said is this was a guy who was on top that let his ego run wild and ruin him and that makes his advice worth listening to.
He is simply saying Johnny should chill out a little.
I don't understand why it upset you.
I've been saying all of this stuff about Johnny has been way overblown from the get go. I don't think the stuff he is doing is really a big deal. But that doesn't change that he should ease up b/c the media is going to pounce of every little thing he does now.
All I said is this was a guy who was on top that let his ego run wild and ruin him and that makes his advice worth listening to.
He is simply saying Johnny should chill out a little.
I don't understand why it upset you.
I've been saying all of this stuff about Johnny has been way overblown from the get go. I don't think the stuff he is doing is really a big deal. But that doesn't change that he should ease up b/c the media is going to pounce of every little thing he does now.
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 7:27 pm
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:42 pm to Dr RC
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and that makes his advice worth listening to.
That's where we differ. Nate didn't say anything I disagree with. It's the fact that it is from Nate that is laughable.
And I'm not upset, but get off my lawn!
SEC Media Days is going to be... interesting. You know the press isn't going to let go of the last Twitter debacle.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:56 pm to finestfirst79
I just don't understand how you can completely discount advice from somebody who has been there, fallen off b/c their ego took over, and slowly pulled themselves back up after being turned into a laughing stock.
Would you say the advice from a recovering drug addict who is brought to a school to speak to kids on how to avoid going down the wrong path is useless?
and yea, SEC Media days are going to be a bitch for Johnny. I believe he will do fine but he is going to have to deal with a ton of bullshite and shitty reporting from lazy writers looking to leech off his fame by creating dramatic headlines.
Would you say the advice from a recovering drug addict who is brought to a school to speak to kids on how to avoid going down the wrong path is useless?
and yea, SEC Media days are going to be a bitch for Johnny. I believe he will do fine but he is going to have to deal with a ton of bullshite and shitty reporting from lazy writers looking to leech off his fame by creating dramatic headlines.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:08 pm to Dr RC
I'm one of those guys who doesn't think Michael Vick would be a good choice for speaker at an ASPCA convention. I'm biased like that.
Nate didn't "fall off" anything, he dove head first in a remarkable demonstration of self-destruction. Comparing a guy who clearly wanted to be Mr. Big pot dealer to a recovering drug addict is... what's the word... hyperbole?
Nate didn't "fall off" anything, he dove head first in a remarkable demonstration of self-destruction. Comparing a guy who clearly wanted to be Mr. Big pot dealer to a recovering drug addict is... what's the word... hyperbole?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:14 pm to finestfirst79
Have you ever heard some of those drug addict talks?
They don't just get people who blew some coke and lost their jobs.
The ones I have heard were all far worse than trying to be a big pot dealer.
I'm talking dudes who ended up accidentally killing people b/c they were so messed up on the hard stuff.
I will say that had Nate been selling hard drugs I'd have a different opinion.
They don't just get people who blew some coke and lost their jobs.
The ones I have heard were all far worse than trying to be a big pot dealer.
I'm talking dudes who ended up accidentally killing people b/c they were so messed up on the hard stuff.
I will say that had Nate been selling hard drugs I'd have a different opinion.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:25 pm to Dr RC
I'm all for Nate getting his life together and being a productive member of society. That doesn't mean I think he should fill in for Dear Abby counseling people on their life choices.
More or less locally there is a close parallel. Google "Tammy Thomas" (but not on a full stomach). In my previous life I raced bicycles and loved it. Tammy now runs a private bike racing coaching clinic for... ready? teenage girls. This crap drives me crazy. And the idiot Jackson bike club allows her free advertising on their mailing list. She has paid her punishment and I wish her well... but not in anything related to bike racing. Likewise, Nate shouldn't be offering advice to anybody - at least not anybody who isn't on their way to prison.
Sorry for the weird tangent.
More or less locally there is a close parallel. Google "Tammy Thomas" (but not on a full stomach). In my previous life I raced bicycles and loved it. Tammy now runs a private bike racing coaching clinic for... ready? teenage girls. This crap drives me crazy. And the idiot Jackson bike club allows her free advertising on their mailing list. She has paid her punishment and I wish her well... but not in anything related to bike racing. Likewise, Nate shouldn't be offering advice to anybody - at least not anybody who isn't on their way to prison.
Sorry for the weird tangent.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:31 pm to finestfirst79
no worries man 
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:01 pm to finestfirst79
Holy fricking shite, we've been trolled by the Dallas Morning News. What in the proper frick does Nate Newton have to do with Johnny? 
When dealing with Johnny's extra-curricular activities, the best attitude to take is :
Could he handle the fame and limelight better? Sure. Immature? Definitely. Should he take to Twitter every random thought that pops in his head? Of course not. But I'm not going to concern myself about how JFF should or ought to conduct himself. Short of becoming a cloistered nun, the media attention will follow him no matter what he does in public. People expect too much when deep down, he's still a kid dealing with an extraordinary amount of pressure.
quote:Was Leonard Little or Dante Stallworth unavailable? I'm sorry, the DMN and Nasty Nate can keep their friendly and unsolicited advice to themselves. Has the paper asked Newton to weigh in on TCU's actual thug POS Casey Pachall? Hmmm...
it should mean more coming from somebody who screwed up and then then cleaned up their life.
When dealing with Johnny's extra-curricular activities, the best attitude to take is :
quote:No, just no...
I think everybody here, at least those who have posted, can agree that Johnny is a dumbass.
Could he handle the fame and limelight better? Sure. Immature? Definitely. Should he take to Twitter every random thought that pops in his head? Of course not. But I'm not going to concern myself about how JFF should or ought to conduct himself. Short of becoming a cloistered nun, the media attention will follow him no matter what he does in public. People expect too much when deep down, he's still a kid dealing with an extraordinary amount of pressure. This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:27 pm to ImperialPalace
Johnny is just like my little brother, who will be 19 in September. Only on a big stage, with expendable income.
Everyone says things in the heat of the moment. Kids these days, the social network generation, think they're supposed to document they're every thought...
Most people today have an overinflated sense of self importance. It's why we think our opinions are important enough to share on sports messages boards. Now multiply times heisman, and carry the one.
Everyone says things in the heat of the moment. Kids these days, the social network generation, think they're supposed to document they're every thought...
Most people today have an overinflated sense of self importance. It's why we think our opinions are important enough to share on sports messages boards. Now multiply times heisman, and carry the one.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:31 pm to ImperialPalace
Yeah I kind of used this thread to have express my own serious thoughts on JFF since I DGAF what Nate Newton has to say. Plus now we might find out who lurks our board
Posted on 6/25/13 at 1:09 am to finestfirst79
I don't agree with the way JFF has handled himself or his fame, but that's none of my business.
As long as he continues to work hard and win games for my alma mater's football team, I really have no complaint. He's a dumb rich kid, and does dumb rich kid things in the social media age.
I don't have respect for him as a person, but that's neither here nor there. JFF doesn't give a shite whether I approve of his behavior or not, and let's be honest, he's proven time and again that his off the field antics (if we really can call them that) aren't an impediment to his success. His performance doesn't hinge on whether I or anyone else respects him, and that's ok. Sure, I wish he loved all A&M stood for and it's traditions as much as I and many other Ags do, but guess what? None of us could do in an entire lifetime what he did for A&M in a mere 5 months, love for Aggieland notwithstanding. I respect his athletic talent--the rest is just noise to me. He's not a role model, nor does he purport to be.
I don't have a problem with Nate Newton weighing in, however. The notion that someone who screwed up can't give cogent advice is ludicrous. What better authority to speak as a cautionary voice than someone who's been down a bad road and made it back? That's NOT to compare JFF to Nate at all--I just think the automatic spurning of anything Newton has to say is childish.
As long as he continues to work hard and win games for my alma mater's football team, I really have no complaint. He's a dumb rich kid, and does dumb rich kid things in the social media age.
I don't have respect for him as a person, but that's neither here nor there. JFF doesn't give a shite whether I approve of his behavior or not, and let's be honest, he's proven time and again that his off the field antics (if we really can call them that) aren't an impediment to his success. His performance doesn't hinge on whether I or anyone else respects him, and that's ok. Sure, I wish he loved all A&M stood for and it's traditions as much as I and many other Ags do, but guess what? None of us could do in an entire lifetime what he did for A&M in a mere 5 months, love for Aggieland notwithstanding. I respect his athletic talent--the rest is just noise to me. He's not a role model, nor does he purport to be.
I don't have a problem with Nate Newton weighing in, however. The notion that someone who screwed up can't give cogent advice is ludicrous. What better authority to speak as a cautionary voice than someone who's been down a bad road and made it back? That's NOT to compare JFF to Nate at all--I just think the automatic spurning of anything Newton has to say is childish.
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