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re: Eric Hyman's accomplishments as AD

Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 3:04 pm to
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Was that really Hyman's doing?



Someone had to sign off on $5 million a year. That was back before Charlie made it a reasonable wage.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 6/2/15 at 10:50 pm to
Hyman's had nothing to do with football other than hob knobbing with boosters at various functions.

As for real accomplishments?
-He didn't fire Childress last year when there was a decent bit of heat. Of course, that might not be an accomplishment. Childress is right on the keep/fire edge. He's a good coach, but not a great one (though he's done an A+ job this year with his top two pitchers out, so maybe he's taking the next step).
-We've successfully raised a crap ton of money on his watch. Of course, that coincided with a historical move to a much better conference and our best football season in a really long arse time, so I'm convinced a Deloss Dodds could have shown up in a burnt orange tie, flashed the hook 'em sign a few times, autographed a few photos with 27-25!, and still raised a shite ton of money. So I'm not sure how much credit he gets for that.

Failures.
-He should have fired Kennedy after year 3.
-His managing expectations line painted him as a loser.
-I know he was only a fraction of the baseball selection committee, but until Hyman, no top 8 RPI team with an AD on the committee had ever failed to lock down a national seed (I think we were #6 in RPI so he even had some fudge factor to work with).
-He managed to refer to A&M as "they" in a recent interview.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:46 am to
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-He should have fired Kennedy after year 3.


Yup.

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-His managing expectations line painted him as a loser.


Yup.

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-He managed to refer to A&M as "they" in a recent interview.


Not making as big a deal out of this as some (**cough**TA**cough**), but that is not a good look in a series of not-good looks. As AD, it is imperative that you're constantly cognizant of the image you project, and that incident along with his "managing expectations" thing have shown me that Hyman isn't quite up to snuff in the "perception is reality" department.

Eric has time to turn it around, but honestly at this point, I'm missing $Bill, for all his bluster.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79978 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 7:58 am to
Byrne was just an a-hole to a vocal group of fans.

Hyman is incompetent at all levels. I never thought I'd miss Byrne.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
1146 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 11:48 am to
TBird, I agree that his "they" faux pas wouldn't be that big a deal in a vacuum. Honestly, it's not that big a deal even when you consider his other mistakes. To me, it's just another small suggestion that he's parked here to make a few extra bucks before retirement, and that he's not genuinely invested in the job.

Byrne made some mistakes as AD, but he really wanted to win and he was gonna go down swinging if he didn't. Maybe that would have described Hyman awhile back, but I'm not sure that it does anymore. He commented that he's glad that this was his last year on the the baseball seeding committee. That just seems... tired. And we don't need a tired, checked-out athletic director.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/3/15 at 12:22 pm to
Fully agreed on both counts. $Bill made plenty of mistakes, but you could never accuse him of slacking or disinterest.

Idk what the deal is with Hyman, but he's never gelled for one reason or another. Not saying he has to be somebody that "gets" A&M or anything trite like that, but at least display some more "oneness" with the job and fanbase.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:39 pm to
The issue I have with most of the Hyman discussions is they tend to refuse to give him any credit for the positives during his tenure and yet he gets 100% of the blame for any negatives.

I don't know how you can simply act as though all of the positives from football he gets no credit for. The facilities and the concept that we are going to have the best, period. Keeping Sumlin and hiring Chavis. New Kyle set to be better than pro stadiums. Are those all on Hyman? Absolutely not, but at a bare minimum he could have screwed them up and we have had many an AD in the past that has. My guess is he deserves at least some credit as a supporter of those issues and he clearly makes football his #1 priority, something Byrne certainly could not say. He also is supportive of anything he can to not only expand the brand but improve the on field performance, it isn't strictly a revenue issue as others have done in the past.

He extended Blair and has kept Henry in spite of the sips coming after him and I am sure others.

He kept Childress after last season. If you don't consider that a positive at this point then you are blinded by hate for the man.

He supported hiring Stansbury.

The negatives are well trodden. Keeping Kennedy is certainly controversial but I think overblown when you consider Kennedy has improved steadily though slowly. His demeanor is horrible and he is the anti-Byrne when it comes to taking credit for accomplishments or communication. He also clearly treats this "like a job" and doesn't have a deep love for A&M, though I think this feature is less important than many. JDC, Groff, and Byrne all loved A&M through and through but all were deeply flawed AD's.

Oh, and if you really miss Byrne just remind yourself over and over that Byrne wanted to stay attached to Texas either in the Big 12 or Pac 12, hated the idea of the SEC, and wanted to reduce Kyle by 10k seats. He had no desire to spend any more than necessary on football and extended both Fran and Sherman. To me nothing that Hyman has done is half as bad as any of that.

I do think Hyman is flawed and isn't a long term answer, I just don't think he is nearly as bad as most think. Personally I think he is grooming Cook as his successor or at least that wouldn't surprise me. I also must admit that living in Austin and seeing the idiocy that is Steve Patterson makes it much harder for me to hate Hyman, we could do A LOT worse.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:42 pm to
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I do think Hyman is flawed and isn't a long term answer, I just don't think he is nearly as bad as most think.


Have an upvote

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Personally I think he is grooming Cook as his successor or at least that wouldn't surprise me.


I hope this happens. Cook has put in work and would make a great AD, IMO

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living in Austin and seeing the idiocy that is Steve Patterson makes it much harder for me to hate Hyman, we could do A LOT worse.


True, true
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50206 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 1:51 pm to
I think we all want Cook. He smart and knows how to raise A&M to a major level. His work already shows from before he was even in the AD's office. Its hard to imagine he actually came from State. However its the sport side that worries me. I don't think he has much experience at all hiring a coach. If he does get the job next, I hope he leans on someone who knows the sport side better.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:16 pm to
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Failures.
-He should have fired Kennedy after year 3.
-His managing expectations line painted him as a loser.
-I know he was only a fraction of the baseball selection committee, but until Hyman, no top 8 RPI team with an AD on the committee had ever failed to lock down a national seed (I think we were #6 in RPI so he even had some fudge factor to work with).
-He managed to refer to A&M as "they" in a recent interview.


You forget he thought our stadium should have been sub-100k.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:28 pm to
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he thought our stadium should have been sub-100k.


Given the attendance trends in cfb, he was probably right.

But that'd never fly in the perpetual dick-measuring contest that is stadium size in TX

I'm still mildly disappointed we didn't go for 110k for entirely selfish reasons.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Given the attendance trends in cfb, he was probably right.



I would argue that we ARE really at 90k (or lower) compared to other top programs when you consider our massive student attendance numbers.

The fact that he couldn't "get" that we had one shot to pass everyone and we were going to take it logic be damned concerns me.

On the other hand Sharp stepped in and fixed it, and as long as Sharp is around I expect a lot of AD decisions to be out of the AD's pay grade.
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
2022 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 4:36 pm to
The student demand for us is really unique. It is one aspect that if it ever starts to wane will hurt us badly compared to other programs.
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 6/4/15 at 7:53 pm to
I refuse to give him credit for doing what any athletic director would have done in his position, and I give him blame for doing nothing when any good athletic director would have made a change.

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:47 am to
I'll let y'all all in on a little secret...

Hyman was the the initial leak in the TCU ticket scandal.

I'd tell you who told me but I don't want them to lose their job at the Fish Pond.
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