re: South Carolina fans RE: 2014 class

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ConwayGamecock

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So they gotta retest & are not waiting on the NCAA Clearinghouse... big difference, logistically & timewise...

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What kind of tests are we talking?

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ACT is my understanding...

They either have some low GPA or they are some struggling test takers.

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They either have some low GPA or they are some struggling test takers.

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The reports I have seen say their ACT tests were HIGH, not low: high enough from previous test results that they got flagged, so they are taking the tests again. I guess the NCAA or USC - whoever is flagging these results - think they cheated to get the latest results as high as they were, or just are taking precautions. We'll see in about 2 weeks. Wideman's fate will be known this time next week, reportedly...

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The reports I have seen say their ACT tests were HIGH, not low: high enough from previous test results that they got flagged, so they are taking the tests again. I guess the NCAA or USC - whoever is flagging these results - think they cheated to get the latest results as high as they were, or just are taking precautions

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It's hard to raise your score more than a few points. If they scored more than 3-4 points higher it's going to get flagged.

I'm confused. Didn't you guys only have like 4 seniors last year? Maybe 4 left early. So you had 8 or 9 roster spots open and you signed 21? Even with some transfers you couldn't have had but about 15 scholarships to give. Maybe your coaches already knew most of these guys weren't getting in.

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I'm confused. Didn't you guys only have like 4 seniors last year? Maybe 4 left early. So you had 8 or 9 roster spots open and you signed 21? Even with some transfers you couldn't have had but about 15 scholarships to give. Maybe your coaches already knew most of these guys weren't getting in.

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You've got it right and Conway explained it well. The only thing he missed was this.

Our coaches actually figured as many as four might not qualify - which four I'm not sure. They may have had a specific four in mind and they may be surprised at what is happening right now, I:m sure they are.

But the part Conway missed is that they planned on having a few open schollies this year that they will fill with early enrollees from the 2015 class which is shaping-up very nicely and includes several high profile DBs.

It's going to all work-out in the end and we'll be loaded. This year, because we've been such a young team for the past few years, this year was not a crucial year to fill the roster .... except at CB where it could get interesting but we are in no way desperate. Plenty of teams go through this from time to time. We'll be fine.

One of our recruiting fortes, if you will, is helping kids turn their slack academic habits around. If we get them in we have a very good track record of getting them the help they need at The Dodie and turning them into productive young men. We've been doing this for years now. There have been other "close" years where it went down to the wire. This year has been somewhat magnified because of the increased attention on the program and the need at CB. CB may be tight this year, who knows, but we'll have a glutton at DB this time next year.

It happens to every program at one time or another at one position or another.

We'll probably play with a roster of 78-79 again this season, sign 28-29 in the next class, enroll 3-4 early and a full class of 25 the following summer ... this time next year.

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LOL. Tell me you didn't type this with a straight face. Read some of the studies conducted on what goes on with the academics of college athletes. For the schools willing to actually put their data out there, it is quite obvious that keeping less than stellar scholar athletes eligible has little to do with actually getting them a degree they could conceivably use.

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I'm sorry but ... wut?

Links to said studies or they didn't happen.

And with regard to "getting them degrees they could conceivably use," .... so what? What's your point? Did you really type that with a straight face?

How many graduates actually find work in their field of study anyway? I'm asking about all graduates, not just student athletes.

College degrees prove an ability to finish what you start. To develop and put into practice a plan for success and achieve specific goals. To illustrate a responsible lifestyle, one that is goal oriented and structured. The sheepskin itself, for all intentional purposes, is inconsequential. It's obtaining the degree that matters the most in all but a few fields of study.

What SCAR's academic assistance program is very good at doing, is teaching and developing strong life habits that are later put to good use after one's college days are a distant memory.

SCAR has an incredible high rate of post graduate job placement for their student athletes .... many of which were headed down the wrong path in life prior to joining our family. And we sell that when recruiting. Spurrier is fanatical about demanding full effort both on and off the field when a player agrees to play here. And we promise to support the effort through The Dodie Academic Facility.

But we'll look forward to the links to the studies you cited.

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This always made me laugh about people talking up Tuberville classes at Auburn. "Well but Auburn averaged a top 15 class for x amount of years under Tuberville while so-and-so averaged #y, you should win". Tuberville literally said that he would sign a kid knowing he couldn't make it in because he thought they needed a special signing day too. Our numbers were always badly skewed having at least 50% of our top 6 or 8 kids not make it in each year.

That said, with the limit on signees, taking a risk on positional needs is just not smart. Sawyer was a good risk as long he is a luxury signee and not counted in the number taken. You have to take a back up for the 95% chance he doesn't make it in.

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Sawyer was a good risk because we'll ultimately get him in the 2015 class, as long as he does what he's supposed to do in JUCO. Jhaustin Thomas was thought to be a good risk because he is very talented and athletic, but he didn't take care of business, and now probably goes to a mid-major somewhere. Other than Ritchie, the others - if they fail their re-tests - look like prep school placements, and we'll get them into the program eventually.

USC has had at least 1 or 2 class commit casualties with every class, and yes some we offer knowing that they will go to JUCO, but with the intent of keeping them in the fold and getting them eventually. We only had 1 not make it in for the '13 cycle - DE Devante Covington. But we ultimately did not pursue him for this 2015 cycle...