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SEC Net Gain/Loss via Transfer Portal

Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:37 pm
Here is what things look like right now with the number of transfers in and out (preliminary) for each SEC program ( per 24/7):

Georgia - 1 in/ 16 out (-15)
aTm - 6 in/ 19 out (-13)
Florida - 4 in/ 17 out (-13)
USCe - 9 in/ 18 out (-9)
Arkansas - 8 in/ 17 out (-9)
Oklahoma - 5 in/ 14 out (-9)
LSU - 3 in/ 12 out (-9)
Auburn - 3 in/ 11 out (-8)
Missouri - 4 in/ 11 out (-7)
Tennessee - 3 in/ 10 out (-7)
Texas - 2 in/ 9 out (-7)
Kentucky - 7 in/ 12 out (-5)
MSU - 10 in/ 14 out (-4)
Alabama - 1 in/ 5 out (-4)
Ole Miss - 10 in/ 12 out (-2)
Vandy - 7 in/ 7 out (0)
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:39 pm to
Kind of misleading when you're counting walk ons.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:41 pm to
Of course Vandy is the only ones who can balance the ledger
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Kind of misleading when you're counting walk-ons.




I'm just seeing what is listed on the 24/7 site. They don't differentiate between scholarship players and preferred walk-ons. If you want to break down those numbers for each program...have at it.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:44 pm to
I’d be curious if they did snaps played for outgoing players vs incoming ones
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:45 pm to
I’m not saying your intentionally did that to mislead. That is just how 247 is doing it.
Posted by Tantal
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:32 pm to
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Kind of misleading when you're counting walk ons.

I remember last year's exodus, but I'd never even heard of most of them.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:30 pm to
Here's a more useful link:

On3 Transfer Portal Team Rankings

On3 includes a portal index which measures the average ranking of players transferring in vs. those transferring out. I filtered it down to just the SEC teams but you can view it nationally if you so choose.
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:37 pm to
Gee, when look at rank/player little old Mizzou is #1 in the SEC.

How can that be?
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 5:38 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:30 am to
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Georgia - 1 in/ 16 out (-15)
It's been strange, but I have read that we were holding off announcing our transfers in until after ESD. We do expect to sign 6-7 total out of the portal, from what I understand. I'm not sure where that will leave us numbers wise as we signed a really big High School class.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

I’m not saying your intentionally did that to mislead. That is just how 247 is doing it.



Gotcha...it is frustrating, because there is a difference. I wish one of the sites would do that breakdown.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Gee, when look at rank/player little old Mizzou is #1 in the SEC.



Breakdown of gross talent gaining by total (# of players x average player rating):

1. Ole Miss - 895.00
2. Miss St. - 735.00
3. South Carolina - 690.30
4. Arkansas - 629.04
5. Vanderbilt - 548.00
6. Kentucky - 511.12
7. aTm - 448.98
8. Oklahoma - 412.00
9. Missouri - 360.00
10. Florida - 333.00
11. LSU - 245.01
12. Tennessee - 234.99
13. Texas - 180.00
14. Auburn - 152.00
15. Georgia - 90.00
16. Alabama - 89.00

Breakdown of gross talent losing by total (# of players x average player rating):

1. Georgia - 1,407.96
2. Arkansas - 1,280.03
3. aTm - 1,264.96
4. Vandy - 1,252.05
5. South Carolina - 1,220.04
6. Florida - 1,214.99
7. MSU - 1,172.96
8. Oklahoma - 1,043
9. Kentucky - 869.96
10. Missouri - 798.00
11. Ole Miss - 794.16
12. Auburn - 785.04
13. Texas - 756.00
14.Tennessee - 734.40
15. LSU - 627.03
16. Alabama - 293.00


Net Gain/Loss Ranking:

1. Ole Miss - +100.84
2. Alabama - (-204)
3. Kentucky - (-358.84)
4. LSU - (-382.02)
5. MSU - (-437.96)
6. MIZZOU - (-438.00)
7. Tennessee - (-499.41)
8. USCe - (-529.74)
9. Texas - (-576.00)
10. Oklahoma - (-631.00)
11. Auburn - (-633.04)
12. Arkansas - (-650.99)
13. Vandy - (-704.05)
14. aTm - (-815.98)
15. Florida - (-881.99)
16. Georgia - (-1,317.96)



Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 4:54 pm to
That site’s index is goofy too, Tennessee lost two players of actual value and one was a senior then replaced them with four actual players of value. The rest of their losses were walk-ons or got buried on the depth chart.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Kind of misleading when you're counting walk ons


aggot always absolutely every time with an excuse
muthafreeka sport do any of you have an inkling of self awareness...
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 4:10 pm to
It's not perfect but the logic on the rankings is sound. Where it fails is for instance, a player listed in the portal as "from Ole Miss" was dismissed from the team a couple of months ago. He's the 2nd highest ranked player leaving Ole Miss and the only one leaving who ever had any playing time though, whereas Ole Miss is bringing in 9 players who were starters at their respective P5 schools and one who started at G5. Thus, Ole Miss has a high index.
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