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re: Our boy Taylor Hamm Strikes again..this weeks target? A Baylor mod
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:38 pm to VermilionTiger
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:38 pm to VermilionTiger
That's a damn fine melt right there.
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:04 pm to chattabama
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that thread was amazing.
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Like I said on 247, it's no wonder Liucci dominates Hamm. It's just not that hard.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:27 pm to nerd guy
Why is there so much friction created among the A&M writers? After all it is just information providence.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 9:47 pm to nebraskafaninwi
That's a good question
I've never understood it.
There's a very real, mob/pitchfork mentality that Ags have when it comes to only supporting Ags.
So when others branch off to do their own thing, the madding crowd does it's best to discredit the fledgling business (they're somehow working against the status quo).
It's happened to multiple a&m start-up sites.
Many folks would be perfectly happy with one site only.
But that's ludicrous; and it's not going to happen, since A&M is far too huge.
Att this point, it doesn't matter. Liucci and TexAgs have become a mammoth entity--firmly entrenched in most aspects of the university.
They're THE ENTERPRISE of Aggie Sports.
Their contacts run deep, and players/ families respect em as the "big cheese."
TexAgs will continue to grow, and other sites will pop up down the line (I'm a fan of the newest site, Good Bull Hunting). But in the end, money wins out, and the network affiliate guys have to answer to a higher authority. They end up fizzling out.
TexAgs calls it's own shots, and TexAgs always remains.
I've never understood it.
There's a very real, mob/pitchfork mentality that Ags have when it comes to only supporting Ags.
So when others branch off to do their own thing, the madding crowd does it's best to discredit the fledgling business (they're somehow working against the status quo).
It's happened to multiple a&m start-up sites.
Many folks would be perfectly happy with one site only.
But that's ludicrous; and it's not going to happen, since A&M is far too huge.
Att this point, it doesn't matter. Liucci and TexAgs have become a mammoth entity--firmly entrenched in most aspects of the university.
They're THE ENTERPRISE of Aggie Sports.
Their contacts run deep, and players/ families respect em as the "big cheese."
TexAgs will continue to grow, and other sites will pop up down the line (I'm a fan of the newest site, Good Bull Hunting). But in the end, money wins out, and the network affiliate guys have to answer to a higher authority. They end up fizzling out.
TexAgs calls it's own shots, and TexAgs always remains.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:12 pm to EKG
I see now. Thanks. TexasAgS is the major player in the market and then you have this 20 somethings year old kid fresh to the profession that thinks he is the big shot but doesn't work for the major player in the market.
Hamm has issues. So this is why Hamm pretends to be "friends" of himself to try and bring a "buzz" to him as the go to guy. Sadly what writers like Hamm do not realize is you will be right when others are wrong and you will be wrong when others are right.
If Hamm wants to be the big done for the A&M subscribers, then he sure as heck isn't going to get there by bashing others. Heck, it will end up destroying his "career" before it even got started.
Hamm has issues. So this is why Hamm pretends to be "friends" of himself to try and bring a "buzz" to him as the go to guy. Sadly what writers like Hamm do not realize is you will be right when others are wrong and you will be wrong when others are right.
If Hamm wants to be the big done for the A&M subscribers, then he sure as heck isn't going to get there by bashing others. Heck, it will end up destroying his "career" before it even got started.
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:20 pm to nebraskafaninwi
quote:not trying to knight for hamm by any means, but the bullshite looch and texags just threw his way was pretty ridiculous. everyone can harp about how big of an idiot and douche hamm is, and for the most part they are right on, but looch is right up there with him
then he sure as heck isn't going to get there by bashing others
Posted on 3/29/14 at 10:39 pm to nebraskafaninwi
nebraskafaninwi, with a few tweaks here & there, you pretty much got it.
Some of the biggest businesses in Aggieland sponsor TexAgs.
Additionally TexAgs has forged business and marketing partnerships with internal university entities, such as the 12th Man Foundation, The Association of Former Students, and Aggie Athletics--to name but a few (maroon out, the big event, chilliest, etc.).
Former players are replete on the TexAgs staff.
Regardless of what anyone thinks personally about any specific character over there, it just doesn't matter. The TexAgs business model is growing exponentially.
It very much behooves young Mr Hamm to do his job, stay above the fray, keep a clean nose, and avoid showing his arse on other sites (the way he's done on baylorfans and on here). If he sticks to recruiting news--and does so ethically--folks will give him a chance. Earning a solid--neutral--reputation is the only way he and his colleagues can ever hope to remotely compete with the big dog.
Some of the biggest businesses in Aggieland sponsor TexAgs.
Additionally TexAgs has forged business and marketing partnerships with internal university entities, such as the 12th Man Foundation, The Association of Former Students, and Aggie Athletics--to name but a few (maroon out, the big event, chilliest, etc.).
Former players are replete on the TexAgs staff.
Regardless of what anyone thinks personally about any specific character over there, it just doesn't matter. The TexAgs business model is growing exponentially.
It very much behooves young Mr Hamm to do his job, stay above the fray, keep a clean nose, and avoid showing his arse on other sites (the way he's done on baylorfans and on here). If he sticks to recruiting news--and does so ethically--folks will give him a chance. Earning a solid--neutral--reputation is the only way he and his colleagues can ever hope to remotely compete with the big dog.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/29/14 at 11:35 pm to EKG
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TexAgs will continue to grow, and other sites will pop up down the line (I'm a fan of the newest site, Good Bull Hunting). But in the end, money wins out, and the network affiliate guys have to answer to a higher authority. They end up fizzling out.
TexAgs calls it's own shots, and TexAgs always remains.
Kinda like UTx will always be the #1 football program in Texas?
TexAgs has a lot going for it, and yes, they dwarf the other Aggie sites. But just as TexAgs has school connections no other site can match, Hamm's 247 site has access to national resources that TexAgs can't hope to match. Specifically, if you have a sub at 247, you get not only the Aggie premium info, but you get the premium info and premium boards for ALL sites on the network. That means you can see what recruits are telling UTx, LSU, Bama, what have you. TexAgs simply can't offer that. Not unless they join a network, and right now 247 is the only network doing something like that. That's a big reason I like 247 best, after having subs w/ all the other major Aggie sites, including TexAgs. So for me, no amount of corporate sponsorships is going to motivate me to pay $$ for a product that doesn't fit my needs.
But even for the other network sites, like Rivals and Scout, I'm not sure why you say they fizzle out. Both are still operating.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 12:00 am to Mirthomatic
I don't understand the UTex comparison at all. So I'll just let that go.
When I say the networks are prone to fizzling out, it's b/c I've learned that it's a struggle for networks to maintain long term stability. In particular, far too many egos are at play/cooks in the kitchen. I was employed by Scout (formerly The Insiders) for quite some time, and I can't tell you how many times we would hear of imminent, total company restructuring. The news seemed to change weekly. Scout has gone through multiple iterations (rivals to insiders to scout, and now back with Jim Heckman) and continues to try to find its identity. It was always a very fluid situation.
As for your comment re: the 247 access to multiple sites ... that's not something I would ever take advantage of. So it's meaningless to me. Just not interested. But clearly it's a selling point for you--which is why different sites (for different folks) are a good thing.
Just some of my opinions. Feel free to scoff in my general direction.
When I say the networks are prone to fizzling out, it's b/c I've learned that it's a struggle for networks to maintain long term stability. In particular, far too many egos are at play/cooks in the kitchen. I was employed by Scout (formerly The Insiders) for quite some time, and I can't tell you how many times we would hear of imminent, total company restructuring. The news seemed to change weekly. Scout has gone through multiple iterations (rivals to insiders to scout, and now back with Jim Heckman) and continues to try to find its identity. It was always a very fluid situation.
As for your comment re: the 247 access to multiple sites ... that's not something I would ever take advantage of. So it's meaningless to me. Just not interested. But clearly it's a selling point for you--which is why different sites (for different folks) are a good thing.
Just some of my opinions. Feel free to scoff in my general direction.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 8:51 am to EKG
247 is ok. I like to talk with fans of other teams via PM. The recruiting info you just have to figure out who sucks and who doesn't, but that is the same at Rivals and Scout too.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 9:35 am to EKG
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I don't understand the UTex comparison at all. So I'll just let that go.
Just a comment that even when some entity seems to have a permanent hold on the top spot in a given field, there is no guarantee that will persist forever.
Interesting info on Scout. Of all the services, they do seem the shakiest. I was a member when they did their conversion to "Fox Sports Next", which was a total disaster. They completely changed their software, and it was so buggy and hated by their subscribers, they had to junk the whole thing and return to their previous format and name.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:25 am to Mirthomatic
What? Anyone trying to stick up for Hamm, especially right now, just looks bad.
His sources are no better than anyone's.
I'll make this easy. In 20 years, TexAgs will STILL be the largest Aggie sports website for recruiting, talk, and everything else, on the Internet.
Do you know what site Hamm will be working for? That's a guess.
His sources are no better than anyone's.
I'll make this easy. In 20 years, TexAgs will STILL be the largest Aggie sports website for recruiting, talk, and everything else, on the Internet.
Do you know what site Hamm will be working for? That's a guess.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:49 am to Swaggit
Whosever alter this and KDSAG are, you rock 
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:53 am to WestCoastAg
I'm pretty sure I know who Swaggit is 
Posted on 3/30/14 at 2:52 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
:Kern:
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:08 pm to WestCoastAg
I have it narrowed down to two people
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:57 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Is jorts one of them?
Posted on 3/30/14 at 5:03 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
possibly Posted on 3/30/14 at 6:14 pm to nebraskafaninwi
Billy Liucci is a condescending POS douchebag who is just one incident away from losing any credibility he had.
This post was edited on 3/30/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 3/30/14 at 11:48 pm to EKG
Not a fan of Hamm, his info, his tactics or how he hurts A&M's recruiting efforts in his ZEST for scoop.
And Yes... He did cause his site to have their credentials pulled.
And Yes... He did cause his site to have their credentials pulled.
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